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Like ellusionist, if somoene doubted the fact that you were alive, or refused to believe that you existed, wouldnt you want to show them that you really do exist???

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the problem is he's God u cant just see him like that ! even the prophets didnt see him ! which they have the most higher degree in mankind were they worshipped God Truley .. u want some Drunk ass ppl .. to see God .. plz make some sense !

And when Moses came the time and place appointed by Us, and his Lord spoke to him, he said: "O my Lord! Show me (yourself), that I may look upon You."

God said: "You cannot see Me, but look upon the mountain if it stands still in its place then you shall see Me." So when his Lord appeared to the mountain, He made it collapse to dust, and Moses fell down unconscious. Then when he recovered his senses he said: "Glory be to You, I turn to You in repentance and I am the first of the believers."

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If "he" wants people to worship "him", then I think "he" should not do bad things to "his" people. Its common sense!

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the only reason most ppl pray to God is when they r having trouble thats it .. but if ur having a damn good life .. u forget him in a sec !!

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Originally posted by eLLuSioNiST@Mar 23 2005, 06:38 PM

the only reason most ppl pray to God is when they r having trouble thats it .. but if ur having a damn good life .. u forget him in a sec !!

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that proves my point! people have problems so they turn to this bogus religion for answers that they wont get. It is nothing more than a means of a false sense of security.

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Originally posted by eLLuSioNiST@Mar 23 2005, 06:38 PM
the problem is he's God u cant just see him like that ! even the prophets didnt see him ! which they have the most higher degree in mankind were they worshipped God Truley .. u want some Drunk ass ppl .. to see God .. plz make some sense !

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What was it exactly about my statement that didnt make sense?

I believe that EVERYONE should be able to talk to god, I dont care if I can see him, but if he responded now and then it would be nice. Drunk or sober, prophet or pathetic, everyone is entitled to a little love from god. If he didnt want it that way, he shouldnt have created us. Its kinda like giving birth to a kid who grows up to be a shitty teenager.. Its too late lol

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I believe that EVERYONE should be able to talk to god, I dont care if I can see him, but if he responded now and then it would be nice. Drunk or sober, prophet or pathetic, everyone is entitled to a little love from god. If he didnt want it that way, he shouldnt have created us. Its kinda like giving birth to a kid who grows up to be a shitty teenager.. Its too late lol

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its never too late only lazy ppl that want easy life and dont wanna take 5 mins to pray to God

there have to be some respect to God and fear him .. u cant let a drunk guy .. talk or pray to God while he's drunk .. there have to be some respect !

and still there r some miracles in the prophet lifes r still here .. so God can Prove to ppl until this day .. here r some of them:

1- they discovered Naoh Ark on Mt. Ararat in Turkey .. Link Here

2- the body of the Pharaoh...

In another versus Almighty God narrated: And We took the children of Israel across the sea, and Pharaoh with his hosts followed them in oppression and enmity, till when drowning overtook him, he say: "I believe that none has the right to be worshipped but He (God), in whom the children of Israel believe, and I am one of the Muslims (those who submit to God's Will)."

Now (you believe) while you refused to believe before and you were one of the mufsideen (evildoers, corrupts, etc.). So this day We shall deliver your dead body out from the sea that you maybe a sign to those who come after you! And verily, many among mankind are heedless or our Ayah (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.). (Ch 10:90-92 Quran)

there prolly was a noahs ark.... jesus , moses and the rest of them , but there is no proof of supernatural power?
nor is there any undeniable proof to a non believer that there is a god. only a believer will believe minor things because their belief is not based on facts but on the deep seeded need to believe.

There is a diff between a humen that haves super natural power (which there is none) .. and a miracle from God those prophets cant do anything with out asking God 1st.

The Creator=> It is only logical to believe that before anything was created there had to be a Creator. It is, also, only logical to believe that this Creator had to be an eternal being without beginning or end and that nothing could be like this Creator. It is this Unique Being Whom the Quran calls God the Lord, the Only Supreme Being worthy of worship.

as in the Quran God Says:

"Surely We created man of the best stature"

Just Look Around u .. look at urself .. im not desperet in believe but how did the earth, sun, planets, stars, and the galaxies Created....and the humen how is he created in this form with a heart and God gave man a Mind to think with ..!

I dunno man, noahs ark is a physical impossibility

that noahs ark thing is a load of bullshit. first of all, I is physically impossible to fit two of every species on such a small boat. second, this ark would have eroded over two thousand years, wood does not last that long.

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that noahs ark thing is a load of bullshit. first of all, I is physically impossible to fit two of every species on such a small boat. second, this ark would have eroded over two thousand years, wood does not last that long.

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exactly wood does not last that long but a miracle from God to show ppl nowadays .. its like the pharo''s body ... and i think scientists that discovered that... know more than we do ! and they have proves and everything .. !

umm well pharoahs bodies were embalmed and mummified, not some "miracle from god"

how do they know it's noahs ark, anyway?!

I knew somebody would drop the "magic miracle god" line on me