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lol ok whatever u say .. like i told u go to Turkey and see it ! lol im not wasting my time explaining it to u .. go see it by urself.

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Did you read what I said? Read my original post. In it i said that regardless of whether the Ark has been found, this is not proof of the existance of a God.

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God Made the Ark The Sign for all ppl .. but ppl r to stupid to notice lol !!

if its Written in Our Quran the story and where it ended up and God Said:

"But We saved him and the companions of the Ark, and We made the (Ark) a Sign for all peoples!" 029.015

than thats the proof of existance of God ! :D

Sorry, but thats not proof. One fact in a book substatiated doesn't prove the others. The Quran mentions towns and cities which have been proven, that doesn't mean all the Quran is true.

Any myths or legends, including religious texts are normaly based on fact, a lot of the ancient greek gods, and the stories surounding them are based on factual events.

So even if they prove the exsistance of the Ark, that doesn't automaticaly make every other statement in the Quran true. All it proves is that the author or authors knew of its existance when it was written.

So sorry, your quote doesn't convince me at all.

lol ok...Anyways .. God is the all Almighty he doesnt need to proove anything more than that (Quran) to the unbelivers so they can beilieve in him...u will relize that when the time comes .. and there is no way back and no excuse at that time .. :`)

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The Quran mentions towns and cities which have been proven, that doesn't mean all the Quran is true.

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all the Quran is true...bring me one thing thats not true from the Quran ?

man just look at urself who created u in the best forum of beings .. who created the sky and earth .. u gonna tell me they just appeared like that ! and if u cant answer that .. lol than dont argue ! :D

Quran Says:

"He (God) causes the night to enter in upon the day, and He causes the day to enter in upon the night, and He has made subservient (to you) the sun and the moon; each one follows its course to an appointed time; this is God, your Lord, His is the kingdom; and those whom you call upon besides Him do not control a straw." Fatir 035.013

"O ye men! It is ye that have need of God: but God is the One Free of all wants, worthy of all praise" Fatir 035.015

See it doesnt matter if u didnt believe at the end u gonna need him he's not gonna need u :D

You see ellusionist, you say comments and make statements about things in the Quran but have no real evidence other than 'there IS something other than yourselves and your limited minds' and you should really be backing it up. I dont mean to criticise you harshly but you cant make all the statements from the Quran you like but how is that supposed to convince others that Allah exists.

I am a Christian and am only 15 years of age but I firmly believe that God exists and Jesus died on the cross for the salvation of sin but do not have all the answers. My knowlege is limited on the subject on God existing or and facts to prove he does. But like i said, i firmly believe in God and you should try and help others learn about Allah rather than tell them that he exists - full stop. Just a thought.

And to Ellusionist its really ben great knowing more about the religion of Islam, being from Australia it is a real issue over here between the Christians and the Muslims but the Qaran and the Bible contain the same characters and same stories but place emphasis on who the righteous one is.

KRAZEE ... man u came at the last post and u dont know what the hell is goin lol :D .... what kind of real evidence .. isnt enough that the humens r evidence or the sky or the moon or the earth and so on ... what else do u want .. i gave them all the evidence they want .. but they r to ignorent to notice ... so what u wanna see God to believe in him .. then keep Dreaming ! lol :D

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and you should try and help others learn about Allah rather than tell them that he exists - full stop. Just a thought.

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Man thats what im doin all this time .. check back on the previous posts.. !
they can learn about God (Allah) from the Quran .. i cant say somethings by my own and make up things thats why i always refer to the Quran because its the Words of God !! :lol:

Besides all Teenagers here lol .. so its gonna take LONG ASS TIME TO CONVINCE THEM lol !! :lol:

Ellusionist, I'm 36. I do have a teenage sone though who will be 16 shortly.

Either way, I was involved heavily with a church in my younger years, and since then I have moved on, so if you wish you can call me a lost cause.

I suspect my age and my experiance is most prob. the biggest hurdle to you convincing me of what your typing.

kewl u r 36 then u should know better .. just answer my simple Question and if u prove it im done .. who created everything (space, stars,earth, humens, moon and so on) ? if u dont know or u think its not God then bring me a proove and thank u :D

Lets talk about Logic:

It is only logical to believe that before anything was created there had to be a Creator. It is, also, only logical to believe that this Creator had to be an eternal being without beginning or end and that nothing could be like this Creator. It is this Unique Being the Only Supreme Being worthy of worship.

im i Right or Wrong ?! :D

Belief in a big bang or a creator isn't about logic, its about belief in the unknown. Neither is more logical, they are just different opinions. I don't beleive there is any hard evidence about the big bang, and I dont beleive there is any hard evidence about there being a creator.

Books that people wrote are not realy going to convince me either way too.

Thats just my view of things, doesn't mean I'm right though.

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Thats just my view of things, doesn't mean I'm right though.

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Exactly .. so why dont u go and try to find the right answer or the truth.

because u know that we didnt appear just like that and even for example a big bang happen .. still wont creat a best being form like a humen :D

P.S: ask urself this Question when u die .. whats gonna happen .. u know something have to happen right ? :D

yup, when i die, the worms get my body. beyond that is pure speculation! :-D

I suscribe to the viking view. A very buxom woman on a horse is gonna come tearin down from valhalla, and give me a lift to a very nice feast where i can put my feet up on the table, swill beer, eat roast meat and belch eternity away.