Well a lot of views are going to be Biased.
A lot of ppl from the void are american, and Americans are very patriatoic.
Go figure Americans think it was justified, everyone thinks not.
I dont really have a view on it.
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Well a lot of views are going to be Biased.
A lot of ppl from the void are american, and Americans are very patriatoic.
Go figure Americans think it was justified, everyone thinks not.
I dont really have a view on it.
I'm not saying people in the military are less important. They join the military to fight for their country -- their government. If America are at war with the Japanese government, then they should attack the government and the military, not the innocents who just want to stay out of it.
And I really can't see how Britain is worse than America. If it were, I would move from my country in an instant :S
Not attacking the 'innocents' is a noble idea, but it simply will not work in the long run. During a major war, most nation's economy is a war economy, and the civilians on the 'home front' produce all the supplies that will be needed on the frontlines. By attacking the major areas of manufacturing, a nation can destroy the heart of another nation's supplies and economy.
In this case, Hiroshima was a major industrial area, it was a division headquarters, communication hub, storage areas, and had several industrial plants. Nagasaki was a port city, obviously manufacturing ships and shipping weapons and other materials to the Pacific theater.
Had the United States wanted to kill simply civilians they would've bombed major cities like Kyoto, Tokyo, Osaka or Sendai. w/e
The debate whether it is justified is iffy, since Japan was essentially 'forced' to attack Pearl Harbour you cannot say that Japan deserved it. But a drawn out invasion of Japan would've potentially destroyed the nation, and cost countless lives.
Every country has a dark history, even Canada :) The Canadian government are guilty of interning the Japanese immigrants in camps after Pearl Harbour, and of course the Orphelins de Duplessis.
Britain and other European nations exercised colonization. That is pretty bad. Something to look at: there have been few ex-colonial nations that have been successful (New Zealand, Australia, Canada, US and some others), but most of them never recovered. The Scramble for Africa, the continent was carved up and became colonies, the profound effect of colonization today is the third-world and developing nations.
Thats another thing, the internment camps, they didnt bother doing those here, but i heard they were pretty bad for us Japanese. Also if we did try to invade Japan, thier morale was so high that the average citizen would probably stand and fight to the death against American forces.
It was wrong to do it, not only was it wrong morally but it was wrong militaristicly as well. If America just HAD to drop the A-bomb then they should have done it on Tokyo, the military HQ and capital of the enemy, they should not have dropped in on two cities populated by innocent civillians.
And I agree with Shurai on the fact that every nation has done some pretty horrible things. Remember the British bombing raids on the german city of Dresdan in WWII? It killed 175,000 people. The bombs caused a ring of fire around the city so the oxygen was taken up by the flames and people in the city died of suffocation and affixiation. Another pretty gruesome fact is that the incredible amount of heat actually caused people to melt! Yes you heard me, people actualy melted in there.
Every country screws up sometimes, and the USA should not have dropped the A-Bomb and they DEFINATELY should not have dropped them on Nagasaki and Hiroshima.
lol @ coward way... yea lets send our military guys in on FOREIGN LAND and let them fight that makes so much more sense than dropping a bomb.. that would be killing our people when we can simply drop the bomb .. japan would of destoryed us.. they have 3 times as many men as we do.. it would of been just like vietnam
being from the uk u have no room to bash america uk use to be the dirtiest country there was
actually no americans dont think it was justified... better rethink that one.. americans HATE war and are never for it.. the reason why americans hate bush and every republican that goes to war... but we also dont think it was justified for them to bomb pearl harbor when we werent even in the god forsaken war
they didnt bomb the civilians they bombed the factories it just spread out too far and they didnt know the effects of the bomb or what it would do if they wanted to bomb civilians they would of dropped it on communties and not factories... even if we werent justified they still bombed us and capped a boat with boys inside... is that justified? military or not NONE of it is justified... war is never justified and nothing that happens in war is justified so how can u ask if dropping a bomb is justified..well duh of course not.. america wasn't in the war and wanted nothing to do with it they shoulda stay the hell away and surrended when we threatened them with the 2nd bomb... we rebuilt them what else could we do? we didn't know that would happen and america is still sorry about it
i agree every country has screwed up... germany killing innocent jews..
but atleast our screw up wasnt purposely and we didnt start it
i love how when america screws up its the first thing to be brought up and nobody remembers what other countries have done... during the same time we dropped this bomb...after japan attacked us for NO REASON AT ALL germany was killing jews just because they were jewish yet everyone remembers america bombing the poor little japs
exactly magic!!!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Magic @ Jul 2 2006, 12:10 AM) [snapback]177612[/snapback]</div>Wow I thought you had something going there until you said that. :P What in the world makes you think that the Holocaust is less known than the bombings of the 2 cities?Quote:
..after japan attacked us for NO REASON AT ALL germany was killing jews just because they were jewish yet everyone remembers america bombing the poor little japs
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Worst of all, why would Japan attack Pearl Harbor for NO REASON? That's just stupid. The US had been meddling and had trade embargos on Japanese resources. Cutting them off from valuable war materials needed to continue their campaign. That's not a very neutral move from an apparently neutral country the US said it was. The 'surprise' attack was hardly surprising at all, the US cut an agressive country from its resources, and froze their assets. What else would you expect to happen? Plus the area of Pearl Harbor had numerous warnings of attack and yet they were unprepared.
The bombs had some justification, but it would be insulting to history to say that the Japanese were the 'bad guys' to this. The bombs were hardly a black spot on American history, I would say the Vietnam war was.
yes this i know... we knew it was going to be hit and our president and military did nothing.... no one mentioned the holocaust...t hey are talking about us bombing japan but at this same time the holocaust was going on and it was far more worst then what we have done that was the point i was making with that
ok so because we take away their resources it justifies them killing our soldiers? wow..... didnt know that was jusitification... i dont care we didnt bomb them we didnt threaten them with bombs we werent in the war they shouldnt of bombed us they were wrong and we fought back we went to the extreme which was wrong we shouldnt have dropped the a-bomb still again they didnt know it would have those effects anyway...
my point being on this is just because we took away their resources doesnt give them the right to kill soldiers and that the holocaust was far more worse then us dropping a-bombs on a country that bombed us first
The reason for the embargos was because of Japanese aggression in the Far East. The Americans sent them an ultimatum to abandon their campaign, and withdraw from the Axis alliance.
Any nation with an ounce of dignity would rightly refuse this. Especially Japan, whose pride and passion for their nation was the very reason the bombs had to be dropped. To them, there was no other choice.
While Nagasaki and Hiroshima were mainly cogs in the war machine, they were still cities, civilians were still killed, along with them American POWs.
Have you ever wondered why Pearl Harbor was not prepared to defend the attack? The US economy was shit because of the depression. A war economy stimulates supply and demand and will stabilize it, nations involved in the War at the time experienced a stable and booming economy (although the losers of wars don't benefit :P). It would not be unreasonable to suggest that the US wanted a war to help its economy.