Interne Exploler 6 or FireFox?

I greatly prefer firefox.. find it a million times better than IE..

I can't web-browse without tabs.

Hmmmm.... What if FireFox turns into the evil was of Microsoft and goes paid?

I really prefer FF.

Seriously, i've gotten alergic to IE

I don't see firefox going paid anytime soon. if it does it would only be for commercial users i suspect, even then the last version under the free license would still be usable.

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Originally posted by Relentless@May 2 2005, 08:03 AM
Hmmmm.... What if FireFox turns into the evil was of Microsoft and goes paid?

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Well then I will whip out my backup EXEs, and re-install and older version.

I find FireFox better in every way than IE. The plugins, security, skinnability, lack of spyware, and the most important - tabs. I swear to god I could not live without tabs. In every sense I have found, firefox uses less memory than IE. Most people complain about this becuase they have a ton of tabs open. This is sort of like having a ton of IE pages open. You are just combining more sites into an easily managable, organized interface. I have been using it since .3 I believe, I have never had a problem with it once. I don't even have SP1, and only some of the updates - I found most of them as trashy as IE itself.

Not to mention how much I despise the interface of IE. The top bar takes up so much space. I just compared it, and I can see a lot more of the screen using FireFox. And I assume you haven't use the "FireFox Hack" yet, have you? It greatly speeds up the speed of loading things. It does work very well, actually, and not loss of security.

I think this is all I have to say for now. If come up with something else I will post something up.

Get fireFox.

The interface of IE can be changed.

By default the toolbar size and position of everything is designed for non computer literate people. In that case, the bigger buttons and so forth make the learning curve that little bit less.

ie can be configured to use a very small space, just experiment with the settings. Strange how you experimented with Firefox and options but not with IE.

I do agree with the tab options, I wish IE had it. But I disagree as to your conclusion of what slows down Firefox, its not just the tabs, its a problem with Firefox that is seen widely in the community.

As for not loading the service packs, well do you want to quantify 'trashy'? Thats a very large claim without facts to back it up.

Please dont provide rants about how you hate microsoft, that doesn't assess how good software is, it just lets us know that your emotions influence your choices.

Bottom line, I prefer Firefox because of its features. I have learned to live with its problems.

I am not bashing MS in the least. They come up with some very good software, and give an incentive for others to make better software to compete with it. Like Linux for example.

And by trachy I mean - everytime I update something or another another new error messages appears whenever I start up my computer. It fixes something but in turn it usually messes up something else. For me atleast. Along with an extreme amount of complaints along most computer forums I frequent, when Service Pack 2 was released. I have even had experienced computer techs tell me dad not to install Service Pack 2 on his computer, for fear of failure.

Are you sure the tabs are not the problem in firefox? Whenever I have one tab open it is always faster than when I have multiple tabs open. I have not researched this problem yet, but this is just what I have found.

I just looked into customizing IE, albeit it is smaller. You have me on that one. I never looked into it until now because I have been using FireFox for a long time now and never had the use to screw around with IE.

hehe lol, no worries. I may have mis-interpreted your comments...

[edit]yeah i did, re-read and realised i got yours confused with someone elses rant... [/edit]

Its sorta strange, IE with three seperate open windows uses more memory than Firefox with three seperate tabs to the same pages, but swapping between apps and i find firefox slower. Note however that I always push the limits of memory on my laptop and as such page swapping will be occuring.

I suspect IE must handle this better, buggered if i know how though.

Btw, for more screen space, try switching to full screen mode in ie. I never used it cause i have a nice 21" screen that doesn't need to make use of such features. Firefox has a smilar feature (f11).

As for installing patches and service packs? Well I have never known a service pack or a patch to cause problems unless there are legacy drivers or very old hardware lying around. I've been involved in IT since pre Windows 3.1 (started on Unix and DOS 1.x). There is always a chance of an upgrade causing problems, but normaly its because of incompatible drivers and normaly only happens in a major upgrade (like from 95 to w2k or w2k to WinXp, etc).

I would strongly advice upgrading to latest service packs and security updates. Just wait a few days to make sure there wasn't an issue wit the update (its always very public when that happens).

Of course if your behind a NAT then you dont have to worry too much about security other than what you install and using firefox.

microsoft is evil. get firefox, and the new(ish) thunderbird, outlook replacement. microsoft is going to go :D

with 50Billion of cash, I doubt very much if Microsoft will 'go'. losing 5% market share of web browsers and bugger all of outlook express will not affect them. IE is free, so is Outlook Express.

Now if Thunderbird affected Outlook then maybe, but Outlook is more than just email and notes and so forth, its work flow and back office integration.

I honestly don't see how he changes in web browsers and email clients can affect the money MS makes.