yea thanks. i now realize that i need to hold shift. i also hope to take a graphic design class next year because i chose that option as one of my electives when i chose my classes for next year. hopefully i get that. i think i need to get a better feel of all of the tools and stuff about photoshop. jjust so i know wut tools do wut and how they affect the artwork. yea i have gotten thousands of brushes from qbrushes.com and they seem to look nice. i mean i never put them in yet but now looking at the comments, i think i will be putting them in until i get a better grasp of photoshop. again thanks for all of the help. any more ideas on anything would be greatful also by other members or anyone else who wants to imput :)