Need Teaching Or A Tutor

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Originally Posted by IshTing

Problem is im not a commited person and sway away from things alot, its been a year on and off and I tend to just leave a tut half way through and start my own thing

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Yeah I know what you mean. I used to gain interest in things very easily, then I would get somewhat good at them and just dismiss them entirely. For example, at the moment I'm learning web development and Latin. Hopefully I can stick with them.

When you find something you think you're interested in, try to look a few years in the future and contemplate how much it would benefit you to be very good at it. Taking my example above, if I got very good at web development, in a couple years I could be making decent money at it and be building a career. Now if you got very good at sigs, in a couple of years where would that take you? My guess would be nowhere, except maybe a different forum perhaps lol.

But something like vector art, you get good at that, you can do album covers, large art pieces, graphic design for websites, business cards, I even see it used in commercials.

So I'm not trying to persuade you from making sigs, just saying, if you've wasted a year on it already, don't waste another one. Find something useful.

http://navras2535.deviantart.com/

this is a mate of mine, that is what vector work is.

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Originally Posted by IshTing

and how long did you follow tutorials? andwhere did you find the tutorials? :)

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on this site lol. almost everything i learned was from this site.

Monroe-dont take sig making for granted like that they help develop good photoshop skills and give you a feel for everything. and with your sigs could be put into a portfolio. believe it or not companies can take notice of your work even if they are just sigs.

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Originally Posted by IshTing

Give me an example of a vector? I wouldn't know where to start.

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my signature

I know that when I apply to art school, and need to include other work than observational drawings, I'm going to use a tag or two.

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Originally Posted by DR809

on this site lol. almost everything i learned was from this site.

Monroe-dont take sig making for granted like that they help develop good photoshop skills and give you a feel for everything. and with your sigs could be put into a portfolio. believe it or not companies can take notice of your work even if they are just sigs.

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I don't mean to belittle sig making. And you do have a valid point that making sigs can develop your photoshop skills. All I'm saying is, if anything, sigs should merely be a stepping stone to more comprehensive art pieces. To me, sigs are for beginners to Photoshop. Because they give you a small canvas to work with, and the concept is already laid out for you, no matter what your style is. I think it's safe to say more than 90% if the sigs posted on here consist of a render/stock, a c4d, some smudging, and some effects. Nothing wrong with that. But if you're serious about your artwork, then break out of the boundaries that sigs confine you to.

I don't want to made to look like the villain here. But here is what I see, and this applies even to the guys who make spectacular sigs:

1. You spend hours making a sig.
2. You post it here for criticism.
3. People leave a comment or two.
4. Your thread gets push down the page and disappears into the archive.
5. Your sig is more than likely never seen again.
6. Re-open Photoshop and repeat.

Sigs seem to be what most graphic artists start out making. Then once they get the hang of Photoshop and develop their skills enough, they move on to bigger and better things. So like I said in my previous post, I'm not trying to persuade him from making sigs, I'm just saying that if he wasted a year making them and has only one sig to show for it, then I would leave sigs behind and try his hand at something that can take you to new heights.

If you go on DeviantArt and look at most of the well-known artists, they're not making sigs. Why? Because they got good and left it behind, if they even made them to begin with.

So please, don't look at this as an argument or me starting trouble, I'm just voicing my opinion. And my opinion is that the purpose of making sigs is so that you have something cool looking under your posts. If you want to be a serious digital artist, put your sigs in the garage next to your bicycle with training wheels, and move on to something more serious.

^ I think i love you :p ive been saying that since forever. tags dont take a great deal of skill to make

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Originally Posted by Monroe

I don't mean to belittle sig making. And you do have a valid point that making sigs can develop your photoshop skills. All I'm saying is, if anything, sigs should merely be a stepping stone to more comprehensive art pieces. To me, sigs are for beginners to Photoshop. Because they give you a small canvas to work with, and the concept is already laid out for you, no matter what your style is. I think it's safe to say more than 90% if the sigs posted on here consist of a render/stock, a c4d, some smudging, and some effects. Nothing wrong with that. But if you're serious about your artwork, then break out of the boundaries that sigs confine you to.

I don't want to made to look like the villain here. But here is what I see, and this applies even to the guys who make spectacular sigs:

1. You spend hours making a sig.
2. You post it here for criticism.
3. People leave a comment or two.
4. Your thread gets push down the page and disappears into the archive.
5. Your sig is more than likely never seen again.
6. Re-open Photoshop and repeat.

Sigs seem to be what most graphic artists start out making. Then once they get the hang of Photoshop and develop their skills enough, they move on to bigger and better things. So like I said in my previous post, I'm not trying to persuade him from making sigs, I'm just saying that if he wasted a year making them and has only one sig to show for it, then I would leave sigs behind and try his hand at something that can take you to new heights.

If you go on DeviantArt and look at most of the well-known artists, they're not making sigs. Why? Because they got good and left it behind, if they even made them to begin with.

So please, don't look at this as an argument or me starting trouble, I'm just voicing my opinion. And my opinion is that the purpose of making sigs is so that you have something cool looking under your posts. If you want to be a serious digital artist, put your sigs in the garage next to your bicycle with training wheels, and move on to something more serious.

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Roe, you just stole the words right out of my mouth. This is exactly what I'm thinking also.

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Originally Posted by Monroe

I don't want to made to look like the villain here.

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Never that Imma lover not a fighter :P.
But yeah Im not going to lie I myself have been trying to expand onto different territories like large art. I just feel as if i have a lot left to learn through just making sigs

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Originally Posted by Monroe

I don't mean to belittle sig making. And you do have a valid point that making sigs can develop your photoshop skills. All I'm saying is, if anything, sigs should merely be a stepping stone to more comprehensive art pieces. To me, sigs are for beginners to Photoshop. Because they give you a small canvas to work with, and the concept is already laid out for you, no matter what your style is. I think it's safe to say more than 90% if the sigs posted on here consist of a render/stock, a c4d, some smudging, and some effects. Nothing wrong with that. But if you're serious about your artwork, then break out of the boundaries that sigs confine you to.

I don't want to made to look like the villain here. But here is what I see, and this applies even to the guys who make spectacular sigs:

1. You spend hours making a sig.
2. You post it here for criticism.
3. People leave a comment or two.
4. Your thread gets push down the page and disappears into the archive.
5. Your sig is more than likely never seen again.
6. Re-open Photoshop and repeat.

Sigs seem to be what most graphic artists start out making. Then once they get the hang of Photoshop and develop their skills enough, they move on to bigger and better things. So like I said in my previous post, I'm not trying to persuade him from making sigs, I'm just saying that if he wasted a year making them and has only one sig to show for it, then I would leave sigs behind and try his hand at something that can take you to new heights.

If you go on DeviantArt and look at most of the well-known artists, they're not making sigs. Why? Because they got good and left it behind, if they even made them to begin with.

So please, don't look at this as an argument or me starting trouble, I'm just voicing my opinion. And my opinion is that the purpose of making sigs is so that you have something cool looking under your posts. If you want to be a serious digital artist, put your sigs in the garage next to your bicycle with training wheels, and move on to something more serious.

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I LOVE you.