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That is totally right except I do it. Which makes it better than Cannabis.

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Omg I cant believe your an ALKY at your age !!1!11one
There, see how you like it ;)
Yeah well enjoy alcoholism/liver cancer chum.
"Oh I wont get it because i dont drink that much" - its what they all say, but its a downward spiral, trust me, ive seen it too many times in my life already.

Did I say my mum says "SMOKE SMOKE SMOKE"? NAW
She lets me smoke because she knows that in my current mental state trying to quit would ruin me.

And before you say it, no its not because of cannabis, I had it long before, and also, no, smoking cannabis has not made it worse.

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And if she is allowing you to it. Your mother isn't fit to be a parent. I hope that doesn't offend you.

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Dont call my mothers parenting ability into question, kthx. You dont know her nor me so its impossible for you to make that judgement.
And yes, that did offend me, as I'm sure it would to you if I said similar about your mum.


Ohio? Ive got some cousins in Cleveland, they're probably what you would stereotype as junkies aye. They hang about with some pretty ****ed people, Owns a Tattoo store and hes got a sweet tattoo on his back, which is friend did for him, initials "G.D" i think its a gang or something, not sure though. Any idea?

Oh I dont like those kind of T.V shows.. Reality T.V sucks big boaby. except Big Brother UK, theres alwayz some fit burds on that.

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Omg I cant believe your an ALKY at your age !!1!11one
There, see how you like it wink.gif
Yeah well enjoy alcoholism/liver cancer chum.
"Oh I wont get it because i dont drink that much" - its what they all say, but its a downward spiral, trust me, ive seen it too many times in my life already.

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1) I am no alcoholic by any means. I drinks once a weekend if that.
2) Enjoy lung cancer.
3) I am becoming a marine. I have to stay in my top physical condition at all times. I doubt I'll be drinking.

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Did I say my mum says "SMOKE SMOKE SMOKE"? NAW
She lets me smoke because she knows that in my current mental state trying to quit would ruin me.

And before you say it, no its not because of cannabis, I had it long before, and also, no, smoking cannabis has not made it worse.

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What exactly is your current mental status? What put you in this mental state? How would it "ruin" you? Cannabis couldn't hurt you if you stopped. It's in your head.

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Dont call my mothers parenting ability into question, kthx. You dont know her nor me so its impossible for you to make that judgement.
And yes, that did offend me, as I'm sure it would to you if I said similar about your mum.

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I am calling your mothers parenting abilities into question. Take it to heart or not. I am doing it. When a mother allows her son/daughter smoke weed or alcohol it is very reclous. I would not get offended at all. Now, I understand the mothers and fathers who "accept" there kids doing it. But by no means not giving them punishments and allowing it or talk about it near them. If you where my son I would kick your ass. ;)

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Ohio? Ive got some cousins in Cleveland, they're probably what you would stereotype as junkies aye. They hang about with some pretty ****ed people, Owns a Tattoo store and hes got a sweet tattoo on his back, which is friend did for him, initials "G.D" i think its a gang or something, not sure though. Any idea?

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From you make him sound he sounds like a usual currupt "junky" living down there. Are you black? 95.42323% of the people down there are black. (Made up percentage.)

And if he is in a gang.. God help him. And G.D. isn't a gang from what I know... But I dunno. I used to live down in Euclid which is right next to Cleveland.. Well, actually I lived in the middle of the two. Bad area now.

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1) I am no alcoholic by any means. I drinks once a weekend if that.

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To start, the first part of that was meant to be taken light heartedly

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2) Enjoy lung cancer.

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I am no junky by any means. I toke a couple of times a week on average. Sure I smoke tobacco daily, but I plan to stop in 4 years time. (Might sound weird I know, but hey its a goal)

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3) I am becoming a marine. I have to stay in my top physical condition at all times. I doubt I'll be drinking.

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Good luck becoming a marine, will be quite an achievement! be sure to post your graduation day photos (its not called graduation day I know, but im sure you get what I mean)
You'll have to tell me if there really are people like Sarge out of Full Metal Jacket :D "YOU BELONG TO THE U.S MARINE CORPS" ;)

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What exactly is your current mental status? What put you in this mental state? How would it "ruin" you? Cannabis couldn't hurt you if you stopped. It's in your head.

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We'll continue this part of the discussion via PM's.

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I am calling your mothers parenting abilities into question. Take it to heart or not. I am doing it. When a mother allows her son/daughter smoke weed or alcohol it is very reclous. I would not get offended at all. Now, I understand the mothers and fathers who "accept" there kids doing it. But by no means not giving them punishments and allowing it or talk about it near them. If you where my son I would kick your ass.

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My mum is by no means happy that I smoke, she tells me that near enough every day, She is aware i smoke weed but is also not happy, as for alcohol, -she buys me beers for weekends (aslong as I give her the money for it)
If you were my dad/stepdad/whatever and tried to kick my ass I'd happily stab **** out of you (thats not a threat so dont be like "Hoho hes trying to physically threaten me over the net - as im not being like that with your comment, I understand that its in theory :)). violence against children is one of my biggest pet hates, im actually quite dissapointed that you seemingly condone it, being a soon-to-be-marine its not the kind of morales you should have. - thats what leads to such vile practises as the treatement of inmates in Guantanamo Bay and various other PoW Camps.

Nah i'm not black, nor is he.. and i'd be careful, some people might read that the wrong way and be offended.

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And if he is in a gang.. God help him. And G.D. isn't a gang from what I know... But I dunno. I used to live down in Euclid which is right next to Cleveland.. Well, actually I lived in the middle of the two. Bad area now

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I did a search and the only gang with those initials that came up was Gangster Disciples, never heard of them before lol (but then again the only american gangs ive heard of are crips n bloods :P)

Anyway, lets continue the little bits left of our discussion in private messages and let this thread go back on topic :P

Seki

I do not smoke. I'm fine with smoking in private but I believe it should be totally banned in all public places. The thing with smoke is that it invades other people's spaces and that's not right.

sigh people who blame their stupid suicidal habits on how bad their life is, or their mental condition. what a cop-out.

rather then lighting up a cancer stick, why not see a shrink?

you're just stupid for saying "i'll quit in 4 years". why not quit now? do you have to get in that last ounce of shit into your lungs before you can have a respiratory that actually works properly? what an idea.

i don't understand why so many people are averse to treating their bodies well these days. i've never smoked, nor toked, nor ever will i. drinking in moderation, fine, but that's another topic. but there's no reason to pointlessly harm your body for whatever reason you think you have. people think that, "oh my life is bad, something bad happened, i have to do something to take away they pain". i say suck it up. shit happens in everyone's life. you say it was better for you to smoke than to pick up drinking. i can see how that is a somewhat valid argument in the regard that drinking can be very destructive, but your whole thinking is very mixed up. there is never going to be one occasion that comes on in your life that forces you to resort to something like cigarrettes, drugs, or alcohol to take away the pain. it's just a matter of having the integrity and fortitude to stick to your morals during those situations.

if you think that smoking is a way out for you, a way of helping your get over your problems, i'll just say it, you're stupid.

I smoke. Just about everything. except for crack :o

Valid point Sui.

Thing is, I have no urge to stop just now, i'm quite happy as I am.

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There is never going to be one occasion that comes on in your life that forces you to resort to something like cigarrettes, drugs, or alcohol to take away the pain

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Try telling that to the hundreds of thousands of people in Rehab/Clinics. (If not millions)

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It's just a matter of having the integrity and fortitude to stick to your morals during those situations.

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If it was easy as that I'm sure there wouldn't be any alcoholics or drug addicts in the world, as no-one starts out taking shit with that intention, unfortunately some slip under and end up with dangerous addictions.

I would have thought that would be relatively obvious, perhaps there isnt the same level of stuff like that in your town, I don't know

I don't want to appear like I am bragging or anything, so do not take it that way.

I have had very upsetting moments in my life (death, betrayal, disappointment), just like everyone else. I was able to keep focused on my morals and ethics that I had learned throughout my life, and have ultimately resisted the temptation to smoke, drink, do drugs. Now I don't hold myself above anyone who does, because I am a realist. I realize that these things are very tempting alternatives to just dealing with the pain, and on the surface, they can look even better.

All opinions about smoking being wrong aside, I think it is just a better decision in life to stick with the morals that have been instilled in your mind over the years, rather than sacrificing them for a short-term relief from pain. It gets controversial, of course, when your morals do not reflect a contempt for smoking, drugs, and alcohol, but your morals should reflect a desire to keep your body healthy and as pure as you can. Unfortunately in our society, the line separating black and white has seemingly disappeared and the two have blurred together on issues like this.
I don't know if you are a religious man, and I do not want to judge you either way, but it is a strong conviction of mine to follow 1 Corinthians 6:19 which says:

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Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own

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This is really my foundation for the morals I have in my life. My body has been a gift for me, and I choose not to harm it with any substances like cigarettes. You showed some pretty convincing data that cigarettes are not harmful, but even you can admit that it can harm your respiratory system, and raise your chances for getting cancer, emphysema, or other diseases. To me, it is just easier to stay away from all these things rather than condoning one, and not another. Because I have seen that when people take one step, they are likely to take another, and each time they get further and further from where they began.
Again, don't think I'm trying to act righteous, or act like a radical religious man who is trying to convert you to my cause. I just find that life is much easier to keep ahold of your convictions, rather than letting go of them. Maybe not at first, but in the long run, the rewards far outweigh the work.

I understand you perfectly and that is a very good point, I have a friend who follows pretty much exactly the same ideals as you - even having mentioned the same quote before (he too is religious).

I'm not particularly religious myself, although I believe in some of the christian ideals and also bits and bobs from other religions.

you clearly have your ideals sorted, I respect you for that m8.

[Sorry for the rather empty reply but im just about to go out, i will build on it later.]

Seki

I agree with Sui 100%

Marijuana kills your brain cells.
Ciggarettes kill your lungs.

and the only way your lungs can fully repair is if you stop before you get a smoker cough, which can be way before you are 35 years old.

Smoking is rude and disgusting. Jakska does it, but politely

Stay ontopic please. That was irrelevant, and inciteful.

-Sui

Please, maybe it was inciteful, but not less relevant than the last post by Nike, except that one praised you.
My post was a comment on the conversation, so is Nike's.
Remove my post as many times you want, but do not lie. God said this as well ey.

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Originally posted by static06@Mar 15 2006, 10:31 PM
Smoking is rude..

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So is Em][n3m but you dont see him getting a ban ;)
Joking Em dude no hard feelings :P .

I'll do a search on that 5-year thing we got told just to see how close to the facts it is, im sure ive seen something about that on the internet aswell, will post again when i find something about it, or something of equal interest.

Seki

Dammit that's weird.

**** it, i give up>!!

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Originally posted by Em
[n3m,Mar 15 2006, 04:59 PM]Stay ontopic please. That was irrelevant, and inciteful.

-Sui

Please, maybe it was inciteful, but not less relevant than the last post by Nike, except that one praised you.
My post was a comment on the conversation, so is Nike's.
Remove my post as many times you want, but do not lie. God said this as well ey.

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i did not even see his post, tbh, i only saw yours because it was the last one posted. i agree, his post not necessary.

nevertheless yours was not either. and don't try to use my religion against me ey. i didn't comment about it so that you could use it to convict me. that's not your job.

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Originally posted by Sui Generis@Mar 15 2006, 02:05 PM
I don't want to appear like I am bragging or anything, so do not take it that way.

I have had very upsetting moments in my life (death, betrayal, disappointment), just like everyone else. I was able to keep focused on my morals and ethics that I had learned throughout my life, and have ultimately resisted the temptation to smoke, drink, do drugs. Now I don't hold myself above anyone who does, because I am a realist. I realize that these things are very tempting alternatives to just dealing with the pain, and on the surface, they can look even better.

All opinions about smoking being wrong aside, I think it is just a better decision in life to stick with the morals that have been instilled in your mind over the years, rather than sacrificing them for a short-term relief from pain. It gets controversial, of course, when your morals do not reflect a contempt for smoking, drugs, and alcohol, but your morals should reflect a desire to keep your body healthy and as pure as you can. Unfortunately in our society, the line separating black and white has seemingly disappeared and the two have blurred together on issues like this.
I don't know if you are a religious man, and I do not want to judge you either way, but it is a strong conviction of mine to follow 1 Corinthians 6:19 which says:
This is really my foundation for the morals I have in my life. My body has been a gift for me, and I choose not to harm it with any substances like cigarettes. You showed some pretty convincing data that cigarettes are not harmful, but even you can admit that it can harm your respiratory system, and raise your chances for getting cancer, emphysema, or other diseases. To me, it is just easier to stay away from all these things rather than condoning one, and not another. Because I have seen that when people take one step, they are likely to take another, and each time they get further and further from where they began.
Again, don't think I'm trying to act righteous, or act like a radical religious man who is trying to convert you to my cause. I just find that life is much easier to keep ahold of your convictions, rather than letting go of them. Maybe not at first, but in the long run, the rewards far outweigh the work.

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Very nicely said sui.

I honostly don't care what type of backup info that anyone has that smoking doesn't harm your body. I've seen what it does to people, I've seen old people die because of lung cancer. I see people do it everyday, and when I walk by it, I hold my breath because of how disgusting it is to me, especially since I have asthma.

It's just plain disgusting, not only that, people look down on you because of it.

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Originally posted by Sui Generis@Mar 16 2006, 03:33 PM
i did not even see his post, tbh, i only saw yours because it was the last one posted. i agree, his post not necessary.

nevertheless yours was not either. and don't try to use my religion against me ey. i didn't comment about it so that you could use it to convict me. that's not your job.

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Sorry, the beginning of my post was only a joke and nothing personal - hence why i stated so.

Seki

oh no i was talking about eminem's post not yours.

i don't agree with some things you do, but at least your posts have been exemplary

Oh ok,
Thanks : )

Seki

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Originally posted by Sui Generis@Mar 16 2006, 05:33 PM
i did not even see his post, tbh, i only saw yours because it was the last one posted. i agree, his post not necessary.

nevertheless yours was not either. and don't try to use my religion against me ey. i didn't comment about it so that you could use it to convict me. that's not your job.

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wtf
how is it your job to convict seki with religion about not smoking
and not mine to do something similar to you

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Originally posted by Em
[n3m,Mar 16 2006, 11:55 AM]wtf
how is it your job to convict seki with religion about not smoking
and not mine to do something similar to you

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I was not convicting seki of anything. That is where you are wrong. I was simply telling him that my religion was my basis for my morals; if you had read my post more carefully, you would have known this.

I already said that i did not read Nike's post until you made a comment about it, and edited it as well. I don't understand what your problem is still.

If you're finished, perhaps we can get back ontopic.

Well you said I was trying to use your religion against you when I wasn't. How would I want to do that, I don't care. Whatever, I'd start talking about many things right now but I don't care.

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Originally posted by Em][n3m@Mar 16 2006, 01:39 PM
Well you said I was trying to use your religion against you when I wasn't. How would I want to do that, I don't care. Whatever, I'd start talking about many things right now but I don't care.

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You accused me of lying and tried to convict me on it because my religion is against lying. It doesn't bother me one bit, but you did do it. Again, let's get back ontopic. PM me if you want to discuss this further.

its gotta be said the most interesting read was seki's posts. Lol "sucks big boabby" LMFAO
oN the smoking issue i don't think its anyone's place to say do not smoke or do smoke sure u can say its wrong or whatever but certain circumstances require different approaches, if u get me. I wud rather some1 smoked crack or fags than slit their wrists for example. Me personally i don't smoke but i don't treat people who do differently. :P

:)
cheerz,
credits to Mary Jane. ;)

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!MON EH SCOTS!

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I like to smoke.

I enjoy the feeling of smoke going in and coming out.

Plus whatever anyone says, it's only for the cool kids.

Joey ed,
Like those about to rock,
I salute you.

i like to smoke 2, tryed 2 stop but didnt work. so i dont mind if people smoke but i have respect for the ones that dont