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Originally posted by tabloid@Apr 17 2005, 11:42 AM
lol someone other than me make La Marque feel foolish please.

Anyway, yall are right I dont argue ellusionists points half the time, but thats mostly because they're usually just huge quotes from some website or something else and I just dont bother to read them cause they're huge and most of the time they just say a bunch of shit and then say "thats why we believe in god" and really its not worth the time.

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:P

Actually there is no hard evidence that God exists...if you need solid, physical proof that he exists, the kind that you are looking for...then you won't find it. The proof that I have, and I know it is not what you are looking for, is the proof that He loves us enough to send his only son to die for us.
The Bible says to test the spirits...so go ahead. Test 'em.

hey Marque ... Allah means God in Arabic .. its no diff God .. he's the only God of the Prophets so dont Get Confused he's another God :D

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Anyway, yall are right I dont argue ellusionists points half the time, but thats mostly because they're usually just huge quotes from some website or something else and I just dont bother to read them cause they're huge and most of the time they just say a bunch of shit and then say "thats why we believe in god" and really its not worth the time.

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Thats The Lamest Excuse i have Ever Heard lol !! :D but thats ok .. lol

Well Anyways They Ask For Proofs .. and when i post the "Scientifec" Proof for them they dont wanna Read it ! lol :D

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Originally posted by Marque@Apr 17 2005, 12:37 PM
Actually there is no hard evidence that God exists...if you need solid, physical proof that he exists, the kind that you are looking for...then you won't find it. The proof that I have, and I know it is not what you are looking for, is the proof that He loves us enough to send his only son to die for us.
The Bible says to test the spirits...so go ahead. Test 'em.

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Oh no no, I just meant about the whole Allah not being God thing. Ellusionist explained it lol.

Anyway on to Ellusionist.
what your missing is the fact that what you post isnt "proof" in any way. Its merely opinion and lack of a better answer. You need to wrap your head around that first I think. You've got yourself in this nice little world wherein you believe whatever anyone who "studies religion" tells you. I think you would benefit a lot if you just opened your mind to the possibility that God doesnt exist. And you dont know me or my life, so dont tell me I need to do the same, because for 3 years I attended religious youth groups and bible classes with my friends who are practicing Christians and then after being educated about both sides of the story Ive made my decision. You seem to be jaded by your Quran; and I know I dont know you or your life either, Im saying this based on what you've said time and time again counts as proof.

No ONE. And I mean no one knows if God is real or not. So stop wasteing y'alls time trying to get the other to believe or not. No one has exact proof of God. NO ONE. The bible is another book expressed to God. Just like the churches. You believe what you want, and others will do the same. Stop taking excerts from stupid ass scientific explainations adn the bible. No one knows, :P.

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Oh no no, I just meant about the whole Allah not being God thing. Ellusionist explained it lol.

Anyway on to Ellusionist.
what your missing is the fact that what you post isnt "proof" in any way. Its merely opinion and lack of a better answer. You need to wrap your head around that first I think. You've got yourself in this nice little world wherein you believe whatever anyone who "studies religion" tells you. I think you would benefit a lot if you just opened your mind to the possibility that God doesnt exist. And you dont know me or my life, so dont tell me I need to do the same, because for 3 years I attended religious youth groups and bible classes with my friends who are practicing Christians and then after being educated about both sides of the story Ive made my decision. You seem to be jaded by your Quran; and I know I dont know you or your life either, Im saying this based on what you've said time and time again counts as proof.

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im taking proofs from scholars .. and ppl that have more knowledge 10 time more than u and me .. so u dont have the right to say its not a proof .. because these ppl studying this thing there hole life .. so not a teenager like u .. which have no knowledge can say that bout them ... PEACE !

everyone here who is trying to argue that they have proof of the existance of god keeps falling back to their religious texts.

I'm sorry but religious texts are only proof if you can prove the texts are factual. One fact in the text doesn't make all other commentary in the texts factual, hence why in law only the current crime is allowed in evidence, not past crimes.

And to Illusionist, your attempts at proving your texts are in fact the word of god are circular in argument, you keep quoting from the texts to prove its valid, or you use biased opinions about proving individual quotes to prove the whole lot is true.

I'm sorry but no one here is able to prove that god exists. And most 'Christians' will admit that, its even taught in most christian circles that there is no proof, that beleif in god is an act of faith cause there isn't any proof.

but opening up myself emotionaly to a non subjective test to determine the existance of god is on the same level of determining if tarot cards work, if spirit giudes exists, if there are ghosts or spirits, if ESP exists and if Elvis is still alive.

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Originally posted by eLLuSioNiST@Apr 17 2005, 04:13 PM
im taking proofs from scholars .. and ppl that have more knowledge 10 time more than u and me .. so u dont have the right to say its not a proof .. because these ppl studying this thing there hole life .. so not a teenager like u .. which have no* knowledge can say that bout them ... PEACE !

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What a waste of a life lol.
How can you say I have no knowledge based on what I said before your post?
And Im not a teenager, get your "facts" straight lol

haha ok :D ... i leave the others to answer this iif u have damn knowledge or not Mr. "21' years old .. u r barly legal to drink "Kid" .. lol

Man just Say u dont wanna Read my Proofs because u dont know how to reply me then haha

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I dont mean to be a dick, but what has god really EVER done for you?

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I think the question is really what have you EVER done for God? He died for you. Isn't that enough? I'm sure he loves us so much he'd be willing to do it again.

And for those of you who haven't caught on, I'm a heavy believer.