Lol, you said you wanted to know any good games coming out on the 360 so I named some.
PGR3 = Project Gotham Racing 3
I hate PS3 you don't see me raving and ranting about it.
Lol, let's just forget this.
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Lol, you said you wanted to know any good games coming out on the 360 so I named some.
PGR3 = Project Gotham Racing 3
I hate PS3 you don't see me raving and ranting about it.
Lol, let's just forget this.
tsk tsk sidra
you can have your own opinions about your game preference, but saying that the 360 has no good games is just ignorant
gears of war, ghost recon 3, project gotham 3, splinter cell 4, halo 3 (while i hated halo 2, i still enjoy the series.. and you don't have to be a fanboy to do that) dark sector, perfect dark, BC (not confirmed.. but it will, and when it does come out, it'll blow anything out of the water), Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, quake 4, king kong.. not to mention all the ungodly good sports games that will follow
i hate people who won't buy something like the 360 just because they hate microsoft. computers wouldn't be where they are today without it, so people need to wake up and stop bitching (not just referring to you)
the 360 is undeniably going to be a badass system, whether you like microsoft or not
@Vermillion - I heard that too which sux, but XBL is cheap so Ill end up getting gold anyway.
@Sidra-Kur - Microsoft purchased the Unreal Engine. This doesnt mean its going to be exactly similar to the game but it means that its going to be a damn good shooter. Gears of War looks amazing and it being based off of the Unreal Engine is going to make it a Top Seller reguardless of it UR is on PC or not. People still enjoy console Gaming. Secondly, which is a big mistake, PS3 will be more expensive than the Xbox, if not around the same price. Xbox will not and I repeat will not be more expensive than the PS3. Xbox 360 will be around the $400 mark and ive heard the PS3 will be around the $500.
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@Vermillion - I heard that too which sux, but XBL is cheap so Ill end up getting gold anyway.
@Sidra-Kur - Microsoft purchased the Unreal Engine. This doesnt mean its going to be exactly similar to the game but it means that its going to be a damn good shooter. Gears of War looks amazing and it being based off of the Unreal Engine is going to make it a Top Seller reguardless of it UR is on PC or not. People still enjoy console Gaming. Secondly, which is a big mistake, PS3 will be more expensive than the Xbox, if not around the same price. Xbox will not and I repeat will not be more expensive than the PS3. Xbox 360 will be around the $400 mark and ive heard the PS3 will be around the $500.
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Sony hasnt realsed the price yet.
Lol, there's just no end to your anger at M$!
The 360's price has been released around $399 for the full package and $299 for the core package.
Sont hasn't released prices because they are expected to the release their console in under a year whilst the 360 is coming out this Christmas.
I heard a story that Sony expect to sell the PS3 for around 10 years similar to what they did whith the PS1.
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Lol, there's just no end to your anger at M$!
The 360's price has been released around $399 for the full package and $299 for the core package.
Sont hasn't released prices because they are expected to the release their console in under a year whilst the 360 is coming out this Christmas.
I heard a story that Sony expect to sell the PS3 for around 10 years similar to what they did whith the PS1.
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Why not sell it that long? No one is gonna be able to compare to it, just like the ps1. The ps1 took the cake over Dreamcast, n64 and Nintendo. And the ps3 will do the same, just like the ps2 did to the Xbox. The Ps2's hardware is ridicoulsly powered. Everyone says that Xbox has the best graphics, which is a load of shit. RE4 which came out on the ****in Game Cube had better graphics then any Xbox game, just like MGS3 and 2.
ps3 no doubt about it
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Why not sell it that long?* No one is gonna be able to compare to it, just like the ps1.* The ps1 took the cake over Dreamcast, n64 and Nintendo.* And the ps3 will do the same, just like the ps2 did to the Xbox.* The Ps2's hardware is ridicoulsly powered.* Everyone says that Xbox has the best graphics, which is a load of shit.* RE4 which came out on the ****in Game Cube had better graphics then any Xbox game, just like MGS3 and 2.
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also, ps2 has not taken over the xbox. the xbox has made VAST progress over the ps2 as of late. when it was first released, the ps2 raped the xbox, but now people are coming to their senses. RE4 has great grahpics, but not as good as some xbox games, i'm sorry. Same with the ps2.
The xbox DOES have better specs and performs better than the ps2 does. You can't deny the facts. And now, the games are better. Therefore, the ps2 really doesn't have anything on the xbox anymore imo.
Also, the 360 and the ps3 are both rediculously powered.. so by saying that the ps3 is, you must also mention the 360. the difference in performance is hardly worth comparing. The only difference will be the games, controllers, and online capabilities. And as far as I can tell, the 360 leads in each of those categories. at least in my opinion.
I'm still planning on buying both, simply because i like the games both have to offer.
Stats show:
PS2 > XBox
Sales my friends, sales...
Anyways, PS3 cut out some of its features, it would have been too expensive with all that horsepower under it ;) So they had to cut stuff to make it under $400
As for the Nintendo Gamecube, in my opinion it was a flop. They just made new Mario and Zelda games... lame
Anyways, they said something on G4 I thought was true about Nintendo and its Revolution. They said something kind of along these lines:
"Nintendo is rumored to be revealing the controller for the Revolution really soon. I think all of us are going to get exciting, and it will just be another boring controller and not be 'Revolutionary' like everyone is saying its going to be. Nintendo has done it before, and I wouldnt be suprised if it was just another controller"
(That is not exact, but it was just along the lines)
ps2 did beat xbox in sales, but, and i might be wrong, xbox is beating it in recent months. also, like i said, the ps2's hardware has nothing on the xbox
Ok, sorry for the double post but read this plz
Ok, Microsoft did not purchase the Unreal Engine. Sony PS3 is going to have the next UT game also, using the same engine that XBox 360 will use. And the PS3 is said to be under $400. Read the news, I have subscriptions to 3 magazines :)Quote:
Originally posted by Something Creative@Aug 24 2005, 10:23 PM
@Sidra-Kur - Microsoft purchased the Unreal Engine. This doesnt mean its going to be exactly similar to the game but it means that its going to be a damn good shooter. Gears of War looks amazing and it being based off of the Unreal Engine is going to make it a Top Seller reguardless of it UR is on PC or not. People still enjoy console Gaming. Secondly, which is a big mistake, PS3 will be more expensive than the Xbox, if not around the same price. Xbox will not and I repeat will not be more expensive than the PS3. Xbox 360 will be around the $400 mark and ive heard the PS3 will be around the $500.
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ps3 had to cut out some of its "rediculous power" to save it from being a "rediculous price".
360 > ps3
Ps2 sells are way higher then xbox, even in America.
and UT games do not belong on consoles, just like AA does not belong on ps2
Actually, I bought Unreal Championship 2 for XBox for my bday, badass game.Quote:
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Ps2 sells are way higher then xbox, even in America.
and UT games do not belong on consoles, just like AA does not belong on ps2
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And yes sales are way higher everywhere. PS2 dominated all the others, just like PS1 did.
No offense Purity, cuz ur my friend and all. But your worse than a Nintendo fanboy.... lmaoQuote:
360 > ps3
I like PS2 and XBox, but I think PS3 will be better.. open your mind to something other than XBox 360. 360 will be good indeed, but PS3 will be better. Im going to own both (bro is gonna buy 360 just for playin online with friends lol)
My bro is gonna get a 360, I personally don't care, they both seem to be good, and both will have good games. That's all that matters to me...
Right now though, my PS2 is cooler than his X-Box :P
dude. seriously. i can show you the hardware comparisons. xbox > ps2 in that regard. and in my opinion, it also has better games.Quote:
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Actually, I bought Unreal Championship 2 for XBox for my bday, badass game.
And yes sales are way higher everywhere. PS2 dominated all the others, just like PS1 did.
No offense Purity, cuz ur my friend and all. But your worse than a Nintendo fanboy.... lmao
I like PS2 and XBox, but I think PS3 will be better.. open your mind to something other than XBox 360. 360 will be good indeed, but PS3 will be better. Im going to own both (bro is gonna buy 360 just for playin online with friends lol)
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And why do you think the ps3 will be better? see i back up my stuff with facts. by saying you think it'll be better just cuz.. well who's the fanboy now? ;)
still luffles.
btw sidra..
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* * American Technology Research analyst P.J. McNealy said the Xbox was likely to overtake the PS2 on a units-sold basis for the first time ever in the United States in April. He estimated Xbox sales of 275,000 units this month, versus about 200,000 units for the PS2.
Sony recently announced that North American sales of the PS2 fell 37 percent during the just-ended fiscal year.
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Sony forecast on Tuesday that it would ship 14 million PS2s in the fiscal year to March 2005, down from 20.1 million in the year ended March 2004. The company added that its sales of the PS2 could fall as much as 30 percent, a much sharper drop than analysts anticipated. Stewart Halpern of RBC Capital Markets notes that "Our forecast may be higher than some," but the 30 percent drop is greater "than most, if not all, expectations."
Look at the overall sales of ps2 against xbox
and then look at the xbox product placement in every movie out there
(theres ure answer)
no shit the overall sales are bigger. it was released first, and people didn't want to buy the xbox right after the ps2.
thats why i posted the recent sales, which xbox is dominating in. don't ignore that. The REASON for that is because people finally noticed that the xbox perfoms better, has just as good if not better games, and has xbox live.
In case you didn't read it, which I don't think you did..
American Technology Research analyst P.J. McNealy said the Xbox was likely to overtake the PS2 on a units-sold basis for the first time ever in the United States in April. He estimated Xbox sales of 275,000 units this month, versus about 200,000 units for the PS2.
i'll translate.
When it was written, in april, (and it has only gone up from there), the xbox sold more units than the ps2. Now if you would like more facts, i can get you some, but I don't see why no one pays attention to this. Recently, xbox has been MUCH more successful than the ps2. It's now getting a lot of coverage.. as you said. and why not? is there a problem with using an xbox in a movie instead of a ps2? it's an all out better system. and like i said, i can show you the hardware specs to prove it. And, as I showed, it is now more popular than the ps2, for good reason.
from what im seeing the 360 is going to have better games
but microsoft and mountain dew are giving away like 9,000 360's with the every10minutes contest
They have both been out for how many years? Just wait, the first couple months after the ps3 realeses it will have way over the sales xbox did.
It doesn't matter if xbox has been selling more, because most of the people buying them probably have ps2's and the only reason they are getting them is for Halo 2 which sucked.
I am agreeing 150% with everything sidra says
lol you act like the only reason people have an xbox is for halo2
i <3 <3 <3 my xbox as you can tell, and i will be the first one to say halo 2 was a load of shit
in fact.. i think i was the first one at my school to say it, people were all obsessing over it, then they saw it my way. but that's a whole other discussion.
it just comes down to what games you want when you argue about the 360 vs ps3 because, as said before, their hardware is hardly comparable. It is an unnoticable difference between the 2. However this was not the case between the xbox and ps2, which is why i said something.
Here are the hardware comparisons:
http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/7739/specsweb1up.jpg
While both systems still play well, the xbox has the undeniable advantage in raw power. Also, it has the hard drive and 4 controller slots to the ps2's memory card and 2 controller slots. In my opinion, the ps2 had no advantage over the xbox, and the only reason it had bigger sales was because it was the first of the revolutionary systems to be released, and people were so excited to get their hands on it instead of looking at the facts.
XBox has like 5 games that I like and thats about it. Halo 2 is a let down anyways... fun for bout 2 monthes then it was old, and plus the single player sucked. Only reason I like Xbox is cuz of Online, like everyone has it. But PS2 has such a wide variety of games (good ones too) to pick from.
And a game can be pretty, and have horrible gameplay.
1) most of ps2 games are available on xbox. there are very few games that are exclusive anymore. the only ones i can think of are the MGS series, the FF series (which will no longer be exlcusive) and god of war
2) i could suggest a good 20 to start you off
3) if by gameplay you mean it runs bad, you need to check you fact. if you mean that you dont like the game, then i guess that's up to you.
what ps2 games do you like?
Sony seems to have a grasps over most RPG companies as you see most well known RPGs are released on their systems. Xbox strictly relies on its power. The only exclusive game XBox has to offer that got a stir out of anyone is Halo.
It is true that the Xbox is more powerful then the PS2. But power means nothing in the world of video gaming (Except for those who are clueless to what a good game is). PS2, as well as GameCube, produced games that provided not only better gameplay aspects but a better experience.
As it's looking the Xbox 360 is probably going to bomb. Alot of the games are 3rd party produced and will probably be released on multiple platforms (when it comes to FPS's i'd rather have it on my computer). The problem I have with the PS3 and the Xbox360 is that they are going to practically be the same machine. Just different games and feels. Looking at the specs of the upcoming PS3 as opposed to the Xbox360, Sony is going to dominate in ever aspect.
One of the reasons i'm going to stick around with the Nintendo Revolution is because they're camp is acting as if they're going to provide something different. Of course i'll own a ps3, but the Revolution seems as if it's going to give me something more that the other systems will not offer in aspects of gaming. I mean come on now, it's Nintendo (Comments like this usually get flamed). The games that Shigeru Miyamoto produce are most times games that are forever rememberable.
I prefer not to dive into system wars. In nearly all cases the person defending their preferable machine will never change opinion or attitude towards the others.
specs dont mean that much, sure they will help produce better looking games, but graphics are only a bonus and how many developers are going to take full advantage of the specs? not many or none. once i realized that i moved from originally siding with the ps3 to the xbox360 because the games for it appeal to me much more. and no im not talking halo i hate it
Well when the 2 companies are practically producing the same multiconsole games wouldn't you rather get it on the stronger machine?
no because the games i want to play are on the 360
pdz,cod2,quake4,pgr3
Most people will probably opt to get CoD2 as well as Quake4 on PC. Although Perfect Dark and Project Gotham will be exclusive titles, we probably won't be seeing much of that from the Microsoft camp.
yea but since im a console gamer due to my crappy PC i will get them on the 360
That makes sense. I can understand that getting a console is much cheaper then upgrading a PC (Well who knows with the next war on the breach).
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Sony seems to have a grasps over most RPG companies as you see most well known RPGs are released on their systems.* Xbox strictly relies on its power.* The only exclusive game XBox has to offer that got a stir out of anyone is Halo.
It is true that the Xbox is more powerful then the PS2.* But power means nothing in the world of video gaming (Except for those who are clueless to what a good game is).* PS2, as well as GameCube, produced games that provided not only better gameplay aspects but a better experience.
As it's looking the Xbox 360 is probably going to bomb.* Alot of the games are 3rd party produced and will probably be released on multiple platforms (when it comes to FPS's i'd rather have it on my computer). The problem I have with the PS3 and the Xbox360 is that they are going to practically be the same machine.* Just different games and feels.* Looking at the specs of the upcoming PS3 as opposed to the Xbox360, Sony is going to dominate in ever aspect.
One of the reasons i'm going to stick around with the Nintendo Revolution is because they're camp is acting as if they're going to provide something different.* Of course i'll own a ps3, but the Revolution seems as if it's going to give me something more that the other systems will not offer in aspects of gaming.* I mean come on now, it's Nintendo (Comments like this usually get flamed).* The games that Shigeru Miyamoto produce are most times games that are forever rememberable.
I prefer not to dive into system wars.* In nearly all cases the person defending their preferable machine will never change opinion or attitude towards the others.
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erm does game of the year : knights of the old republic ring a bell? in addition.. fable, jade empire, knights of the old republic 2 were all badass. not to mention that final fantasy is coming to the 360 as well. so i wouldn't say that.
in addition, good games is you opinion. however, specs are not, they are cold hard facts. so when saying one system is inferior to another, say the xbox to the ps2, you are simply stating your opinion, not a fact.
in my opinion, as i have said numerous times, i LOVE xbox games, and there are also a lot of ps2 games i love. by saying the xbox has no good games other than halo you either are very ignorant or just have very strict tastes/expectations for games. i personally hated halo 2 thank you very much btw
also zeke, hate to tell you (well.. not really)
the 360 is more powerful than the ps3 in almost every respect. if you would like the proof i am more than willing to show you
Knights of the Old Republic was also a PC release (I won't lie it was a good game.) Don't forget Fable was considered a big disappointment. It didn't deliver all that was promised. I never played Jade Empire so i'm not one to judge.
As to the Final Fantasy comment, thats only speculation. As of right now no FF titles are set for any Xbox release. Square Enix stated that its a possibility for a future release on another console but it also stated as long as Sony remains on top it will not change it's stance. Square says it wants to keep it's FF series on the most dominate console. Although i'm sure Square will release some of their other titles now on Xbox.
When I talked about Xbox games I mentioned Halo because it's one of the only good games thats exclusive to the system, most others: Splinter Cell, etc are multiplatform releases.
When I was referring to power I was talking about the cell processor (Which is amazing) and the RSX as opposed to the 360's ATI GFX Card and the PowerPC processor. (I'm biased on this...I'll always choose a Nvidia Card over a ATI card)
When you speak of the other aspects they're pretty much on par. Only difference is the 360's memory capacity. Which isn't the most important thing on a console.
All in all my loyalty lies with Nintendo, but I believe Sony offers much more then Microsoft.
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Knights of the Old Republic was also a PC release (I won't lie it was a good game.)* Don't forget Fable was considered a big disappointment.* It didn't deliver all that was promised.* I never played Jade Empire so i'm not one to judge.
As to the Final Fantasy comment, thats only speculation.* As of right now no FF titles are set for any Xbox release.* Square Enix stated that its a possibility for a future release on another console but it also stated as long as Sony remains on top it will not change it's stance.* Square says it wants to keep it's FF series on the most dominate console.* Although i'm sure Square will release some of their other titles now on Xbox.
When I talked about Xbox games I mentioned Halo because it's one of the only good games thats exclusive to the system, most others: Splinter Cell, etc are multiplatform releases.
When I was referring to power I was talking about the cell processor (Which is amazing) and the RSX as opposed to the 360's ATI GFX Card and the PowerPC processor. (I'm biased on this...I'll always choose a Nvidia Card over a ATI card)
When you speak of the other aspects they're pretty much on par. Only difference is the 360's memory capacity.* Which isn't the most important thing on a console.
All in all my loyalty lies with Nintendo, but I believe Sony offers much more then Microsoft.
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kotor the game of the year was on xbox, not pc. both are good, but it's better on the xbox. fable is still a great game, i play it all the time. ff is confirmed on the 360, again if you would like the proof i'd be happy to show you
here's the comparisons of the 360 vs ps2 since you obvoiusly don't get it..
http://portail.csdhr.qc.ca/EduGroupePub/pe...x360_vs_ps3.htm
i would say that calling ps2 the dominant console anymore is a very ignorant and false statement. the xbox sales have dominated the ps2 sales as of the last year. thank you. so square enix, while i doubt they even said that, must have said that before people woke up and bought an xbox, or they are just stupid.
splinter cells on other consoles don't even compare. don't get me started on that..
i've played chaos theory on the ps2 and xbox, and omfg, what a difference. by saying halo is the only good game only on xbox is pretty ignorant as well. now if you would like me to restate my list again, then i'll do so.most of the games on xbox are better than the versions for other consoles. they have better graphics and play better. it's pretty hard to deny that.
another example: brothers in arms. great on xbox, piss poor on ps2. great game, omfg amazing game.
I'm trying to take a non-aggresive approach in a mature manner but it seems as if you're taking it personally. Just calm down.
As for your site, it does bring up some good points that I didn't know, but the full specs on the RSX hasn't been released by Sony yet on paper. The only information told about the RSX is its expected results. (Like I said, i'm biased, i'll always choose Nvidia over ATI so I shouldn't even debate here)
Also your sources seem to lose credibility when the owner is a Xbox fanboy. I'm surprised he managed to surface that much. Nearly all of the specs that are being released are based on speculation (PS3 mostly). It hurts my head more then anything.
All we can really do it just wait for the release of both systems and see how they pan out. Cause in all honesty, nobody knows which is more powerful.
I'd like to see some information on Final Fantasy on XBox. I could have sworn at their conference they spoke that its possible for a future release, but as of right now their are no plans.
Although Xbox sales may have topped PS2 sales this year. The total number of units sold is clearly belonging to Sony.
If you want to get personal and throw comments like "You're ignorant" and etc. i'll gladly back down from this debate. I'm not here to fight. I'm trying to be reasonable about this.
Like I said in my first post, you're not going to change your stance and opinion and i'm not going to change mine. This debate is useless, and its taking up too much of my time to even fathom how to convince you. So I won't, because I don't care that much.
I just want a revolution.
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I'm trying to take a non-aggresive approach in a mature manner but it seems as if you're taking it personally.* Just calm down.
As for your site, it does bring up some good points that I didn't know, but the full specs on the RSX hasn't been released by Sony yet on paper.* The only information told about the RSX is its expected results. (Like I said, i'm biased, i'll always choose Nvidia over ATI so I shouldn't even debate here)
Also your sources seem to lose credibility when the owner is a Xbox fanboy.* I'm surprised he managed to surface that much.* Nearly all of the specs that are being released are based on speculation (PS3 mostly).* It hurts my head more then anything.
All we can really do it just wait for the release of both systems and see how they pan out.* Cause in all honesty, nobody knows which is more powerful.
I'd like to see some information on Final Fantasy on XBox.* I could have sworn at their conference they spoke that its possible for a future release, but as of right now their are no plans.
Although Xbox sales may have topped PS2 sales this year.* The* total number of units sold is clearly belonging to Sony.
If you want to get personal and throw comments like "You're ignorant" and etc. i'll gladly back down from this debate.* I'm not here to fight.* I'm trying to be reasonable about this.
Like I said in my first post, you're not going to change your stance and opinion and i'm not going to change mine.* This debate is useless, and its taking up too much of my time to even fathom how to convince you.* So I won't, because I don't care that much.
I just want a revolution.
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XD I'm just trying to keep it a good debate and not a personal conflict. Otherwise people will think we're idiots. :-P
I as well don't like false information being passed.
I Think im getting all three of them but first i want to get the xbox360 , Cause im a Xbox Addict ;)
Grtz Restles
xbox 360 all the way! it looks cool, adn with the stats that microsoft claims it has, it has amazing power! i dont like the ps3 controller anywayz...looks like a boomerang. lol, can u imagine getting mad one day, throwing the ps3 remote, turning your back, and getting hit in the back of the head cuz it came baq. lol!
Nintendo Conference tonight! Hopefully controller specs released.
