Neither does not beliving.
You are probley right but ima say whats on my mind.
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Neither does not beliving.
You are probley right but ima say whats on my mind.
Matthew 14: 14-24
14You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.
Jesus Promises the Holy Spirit
15“If you love me, you will obey what I command. 16And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Counselor to be with you forever– 17the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be[c] in you. 18I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you. 19Before long, the world will not see me anymore, but you will see me. Because I live, you also will live. 20On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you. 21Whoever has my commands and obeys them, he is the one who loves me. He who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love him and show myself to him.”
22Then Judas (not Judas Iscariot) said, “But, Lord, why do you intend to show yourself to us and not to the world?”
23Jesus replied, “If anyone loves me, he will obey my teaching. My Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him. 24He who does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me.
Thats my POV for you Metalskin, Please read it and it will explain my POV to you and thats where my Faith is. Although it may not be 'logic' as Ellusionist may go on about but thats logic enough for me. And if everything were to be logic then thered be no need for religion but it aint. human beings are far more logic than anyone can comprehend therefore i believe in God and I believe he is the only God and thats where my faith is.
Thats was some deep stuff, i got to agree with Krazee.
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Originally posted by KRAZEE@Apr 24 2005, 06:29 AM
* 15“If you love me, you will obey what I command.
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Do you agree that these people are from your Religion? If they are, then they are biased.
No i dont Agree ... Metal Skin im just gonna tell u this and thats it:
Even if how much i bring proofs u wont believe becuase ur heart and mind are Blind.. thats it its done .. even if u see a miracle in front of u u wont believe it .. and it says that in our Quran:
"Surely those who disbelieve, it being alike to them whether you warn them, or do not warn them, will not believe" 002-006
"Allah hath set a seal on their hearts and on their hearing, and on their eyes is a veil; great is the penalty they (incur)" 002-007
"Of them there are some who (pretend to) listen to thee; but We have thrown veils on their hearts, So they understand it not, and deafness in their ears; if they saw every one of the signs, not they will believe in them; in so much that when they come to thee, they (but) dispute with thee; the Unbelievers say: "These are nothing but tales of the ancients." 006.025
Thats an insult. Shows how much your God cares about people. If your God especially sets apart those whom he doesnt want to beleive in him and will 'punish' them, what kind of God is that?
And im sure your God has not done anything to metalskin, Metalskin has his beliefs and his reasons for not believing in God and ur God has not done anything to stop metalskin from believing in him.
oh i wonder why there is hell and heaven then !!Quote:
Thats an insult. Shows how much your God cares about people. If your God especially sets apart those whom he doesnt want to beleive in him and will 'punish' them, what kind of God is that?
man know i know that u dont know nothing and u never read the Stories of the Prophets !
do u know why there r prophets that came anyway ? they came to ppl that dont believe in God and worship idols as there God .. and they performed mericals .. and ppl still dont believe them even if they see the mircale in front of them .. thats it here were God comes and punish because ppl saw a miracle by there eyes and u didnt believe so what more do they want .. example like "Sodom" "Lot" ppl and others as well
look when u bring ppl proofs and u know it thats its proof .. but they want any excuse that there is no God .. thats it if u bring him as much proofs he wont believe anyway because his mind cant take it .. and then he starts making no senseQuote:
And im sure your God has not done anything to metalskin, Metalskin has his beliefs and his reasons for not believing in God and ur God has not done anything to stop metalskin from believing in him.
dude if anyones made no sense this entire time its you. I cant believe the arrogance you have in this convorsation. You flat out tell people your religion is better and right and everyone else is wrong. How can yours be right and everyone elses be wrong?
Simply becaues you claim something is proof does not mean it is, and I dont believe that any GOD would be so ignorant as to punish someone simply for not believing what you have to say lol.
oh i think there is something called searching and try to find the Truth .. or i think ppl r to lazy to do that lol and i think drink some bears .. and fuck as much as u want is more important ! oh yeah and jesus is gonna takecare of all of that for me ..Quote:
dude if anyones made no sense this entire time its you. I cant believe the arrogance you have in this convorsation. You flat out tell people your religion is better and right and everyone else is wrong. How can yours be right and everyone elses be wrong?
of course we believe in Jesus but not like That !
Man plz have some sense...u cant earn heaven that way !!
oh so i wonder why God Created us .. so everybody would disbelieve in him yeah i think that what God Want exactly yeah that makes more sense lol ... i didnt say they have to believe what i say .. ! God Created us and Created the Universe so we can acknowledge his existance .. !!Quote:
Simply becaues you claim something is proof does not mean it is, and I dont believe that any GOD would be so ignorant as to punish someone simply for not believing what you have to say lol.
and ur saying that the Guy that believes in God is the Same as the Guy that dont believe .. hell no !! thats why there is heaven and hell ! Satan is playing with pplz mind he wants them to think that there is no God .. because not believing in God thats it .. what is the use of u in This world if u dont acknowledge GOD !!
u think just Satisfying ur Body in this World u think thats the way of life .. of course Not .. thats not why we r here !!
Your a human being ellusionist, you yourself cant do anything to get yourself into heaven and from the Bible and what it says about your religion then logically your going to hell! You wanna start claiming that your right because of what the Qaran says then i guess im right too because the Bible says all who do not believe that Jesus died for them is going to HELL. And i guess Satans got a spot reserved for ur sorry asss.
U say i dont know anything, Mate i choose not to know about religions such as yours! Why? Because you have dumbasses like Osama Bin Laden and fools such as these claiming theres a God and he is worth dying for. Sorry that aint logic.
