Cannabis: Do you smoke it? Should it be legalized?

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I've never been attacked with a knife before, however I've also been trained in a manner to self defend against that. The only way they'd actually start stabbin' me is if there was like 3 or more people. In which case I'd nail each individual one in he nuts and run away. *I don't care what you say, it's not fair if there's 3 people with 3 knives against me, I'm gonna do what I can to get the hell out of there*

About martial arts not training you for a real fight, just look at what it does to one's mind and body. Strengthens it, makes the body faster, and you actually think better. Now look at what drugs do to you: you eventually turn into a drug-obsessed monster with no life, no friends, no job, and a horrible life. Due to this, you're thinking about drugs all the time, so your mind isn't as clear. You want proof, Seki you started this forum; proof you've been thinking about drugs. Drugs make you chill out right? well once you've been 'chilled out' so many times that you have slow reactions. It's been proven that drugs mess with a part of your brain that allows you to react, and feel stuff.

Now back onto if martial arts prepares you for a real fight, it does. If I get attacked by someone, and I'm use to taking/blocking punches from tournaments (and those are good punches) chances are i'll stop sloppy, random hook shots at my head, put them in an armlock, and knock them out. It isn't hard to beat someone once you're faster than them.

One more thing, why the hell do people do drugs anyway?
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your placing weed on the same level as heroin, crack, meth, etc...when its def not...

in fact alot of ppl i work with smoke weed, they all are succesfull in college and make good money for the avg college student, they have nice stuff to like modded cars, some have 2 cars, and im not talkin about shitty ricers, more like perfectly tuned mustangs, wranglers, huge ass lifted 4x4's one even has a rebuilt 69 chevy pickup with a performance engine(rare as hell)

Actually drug adiction starts with getting drunk, and wanting more of a feel. Then it goes to weed, when that high isn't satisfying enough then they'll move on to a different, stronger drug. Just watch your friends, it might just happen.


AND

http://psfights.com/content/view/287/29


who said martial arts don't prepare you for a real fight?



Yea I need to chill-out a bit :P

smoking marijuana/hashish is not so bad guys, but u must do a separation between them:

marijuana: used in many tribal religions and by tons of different civilties, especially from south aerica, india and north american's indans, and as a medical cure in some states.. smokin it causes a state of happiness (sometimes immotivated so get it when ur depressed, it's miracolous ^^) and let u "trip" (some ppl use this term..) = it's a state when u'r more concentrated to ur minds and to ur senses, especially hearing and sight... abusing it means to get extremely tired and so bring u right to ur bed... a right use save ur boring saturday's night XD

hashish: as seki said:

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The name "Hash" comes from the word Hashashin, which was the name of a band of murderers that operated in the Middle East in the middle ages, their name (which later came be to be the word Assassin) meant "Hash Eaters" as it was believed that they ate/used Hashish.
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(Angels & Demons huh? :P), this one gives a totally different effect! it comes from a treatment of the marijuana, and then we can say that it's more "unnatural", it get u tired and sometimes veeeeery confused, don't smoke it if ur seat watching the tv or u'll stay there for the rest of ur sturday's night^^... but surely u could need it before goin to a borin teather show or something similar, coz when u smoke hashish the time pass over u without boring u...

i am a smoker if u still didnt notice it, and without exagerating ( as all the things in this strange world ) is quite good!^^

Effect of Marijuana on the eye:

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The use of marijuana can lead to eye redness and dilated pupils. It can also cause visual hallucinations. More controversial is the use of marijuana as a helpful drug in the lowering of eye pressure in glaucoma. There is a scarcity of good studies demonstrating this pressure lowering effect, but apparently it does exist. However, marijuana is a poor choice as a drug for glaucoma for several reasons: It has a short duration of action, and must be taken (smoked) every 2 to 4 hours to maintain the effect. Many glaucoma drugs (eyedrops) are more effective at lowering pressure in the eye and only have to be taken ONCE at day. Furthermore, smoking is a poor drug delivery system. Depending on how deeply one inhales and on the potency of a given marijuana cigarette, the dosage of actual pressure lowering medication is variable. Finally, marijuana has numerous side effects, including impairment of thought processes and lung disease. The May 1997 issue of Consumer Reports has a good article on the medical use of marijuana
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Actually drug adiction starts with getting drunk, and wanting more of a feel. Then it goes to weed, when that high isn&#39;t satisfying enough then they&#39;ll move on to a different, stronger drug. Just watch your friends, it might just happen.
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http://psfights.com/content/view/287/29
who said martial arts don&#39;t prepare you for a real fight?
Yea I need to chill-out a bit :P
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thats for ppl with no self control...

A pretty interesting debate you all are having here:).

Ok let me mix in here with some points i had on my schooldebate about the usage of softdrugs (cannabis specifically).

First let me say that the addictive aspect, and most (possible) negative consequences of using weed are totally overrated. It&#39;s just that drugs is so stigmatised (is that right in English??) by society (in contrary to, here in Belgium for example, alcohol), that people are just so blinded, so black/white.


Ok, for what i&#39;ve read these are some arguments that haven&#39;t been mentioned yet:

(quoted from my answers on another forum)

"legalisation is the only way the people can truly be informed about the (possible) consequences it can have.
In contrast to now, where our government (i&#39;m talking about Belgium) rather invests money in campagnes contra weed. As long as it isn&#39;t legalized, the government can&#39;t really hold a campaign telling, for example, how to blow safely, or how to seperate quality from trash stuff. -->legalize it->socially accepted->clear image about drugs.
This will have as + side that a lot of people, who would&#39;ve done it anyway, are way more informed, and can &#39;blow&#39; in a much safer and better way.

Another + of legalizing it would be the quality-control of softddrugs.
Right now here in Belgium you have to get your stuff via via, unexperienced/unaware clients often buy low quality stuff that can make you hallucinate (in a wrong way), gets you mass-headaches etc. "

Hope i added some spice to this debate :)

yo padre smoka da marijuana and so does myself once in a blue moon and i might say that mi grades are near perfext and mi padre makes 7 figures easy.

Ok ok ok. Damn for my first post I have to break it down for people. What is the main reason people start smokin or doing anything. "They feel they have nothing to lose"

Ok if you feel you have nothing to lose then your already a loser. Because people who lose vision of what could lie ahead for them are as good as dead. The 2nd reason may be "They&#39;re friends do it so they want to do it."

Ok....your obviously not the leader of your group of friends and you should already instantly look down upon yourself. Be a leader and not a follower. Third reason may be "They&#39;ve done other drugs and they just want more of a high"

Unconsciously your already a victem of reason one. You ain&#39;t got nothing to lose, your moms a whore and your dad beats you when hes drunk. It&#39;s hard...get up on your feet and use em ppl.

Now why would you lust after something you don&#39;t really need, hm? Who gives a cows ass if everyone is doing it. Simply fact is that you DON&#39;T need it. Sure it&#39;s not really harmful until your over 40+ years of age but...you don&#39;t need it.

Now I believe that weed kills your braincells. So smoking it at a young age wouldn&#39;t be THAT harmful, on the count that all your brain cells multiply after 40-60 years of your life. Not all of them multiply so erm....your still losin em folks. (and we need those for your information)

Now I&#39;d say the only ENTIRELY!!! good drug would be Monoatomic gold (sounds like something from Star Trek) yeah but when you heat say...a solid gold bar at the temperature of the surface of the Sun for 72 seconds it turns into a fine white powder. When ingested or injected the gold in

increases the carrying capacity of the nervous system by 10,000 times. Effectively this would make you a walking super computer. The only side-effect...is the skin glows golden. Not much eh? Your just a walking light bulb for the rest of your life. But your a super computing light bulb. All works out fine.

~Sorry for the double post....browser would let me edit
~ Correct Me If I&#39;m Wrong
~ If I&#39;m not then.....your all sad because this came from a fourteen year old.

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Now I&#39;d say the only ENTIRELY!!! good drug would be Monoatomic gold (sounds like something from Star Trek) yeah but when you heat say...a solid gold bar at the temperature of the surface of the Sun for 72 seconds it turns into a fine white powder. When ingested or injected the gold in

increases the carrying capacity of the nervous system by 10,000 times. Effectively this would make you a walking super computer. The only side-effect...is the skin glows golden. Not much eh? Your just a walking light bulb for the rest of your life. But your a super computing light bulb. All works out fine.

~Sorry for the double post....browser would let me edit
~ Correct Me If I&#39;m Wrong
~ If I&#39;m not then.....your all sad because this came from a fourteen year old.
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where did you find this info?

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Ok ok ok. Damn for my first post I have to break it down for people. What is the main reason people start smokin or doing anything. "They feel they have nothing to lose"

Ok if you feel you have nothing to lose then your already a loser. Because people who lose vision of what could lie ahead for them are as good as dead. The 2nd reason may be "They&#39;re friends do it so they want to do it."

Ok....your obviously not the leader of your group of friends and you should already instantly look down upon yourself. Be a leader and not a follower. Third reason may be "They&#39;ve done other drugs and they just want more of a high"

Unconsciously your already a victem of reason one. You ain&#39;t got nothing to lose, your moms a whore and your dad beats you when hes drunk. It&#39;s hard...get up on your feet and use em ppl.

Now why would you lust after something you don&#39;t really need, hm? Who gives a cows ass if everyone is doing it. Simply fact is that you DON&#39;T need it. Sure it&#39;s not really harmful until your over 40+ years of age but...you don&#39;t need it.

Now I believe that weed kills your braincells. So smoking it at a young age wouldn&#39;t be THAT harmful, on the count that all your brain cells multiply after 40-60 years of your life. Not all of them multiply so erm....your still losin em folks. (and we need those for your information) [/b]

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man u&#39;ve got a strange vision of the world.... smoking is not like being a killer or something else, why the f**k should i smoke because i&#39;ve got nothin to lose?? do u think that smokin=suicide? well, in this case u really haven&#39;t understand anything...
guys, the only way to substain this debate and to say rational things here is to have at least tried to smoke marijuana,
if u have tried it and then u didn&#39;t like it, ok, we can talk... BUT if u never touched a joint, well guys, ur talking about something that u don&#39;t know... so it&#39;s better to shut up until u&#39;ll try, or there&#39;ll be tons of ppl like our friend Sarxous thinking and posting that all the weed smokers (and only in rome we&#39;re the 30%) have got a father that beats them.....
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