God

As much as I was raised to believe in God I really tend to believe he doesn't exist. I think religion as a whole was created to maintain social order and ease the fear of dying....

I think the fact that there are recurring themes in all religions supports my above statement.....I mean really......no matter what your religion....what does your religion tell you.......it tells you to act orderly and promises a sort of "heaven" if you act in a good manor....


So I guess I am undecided....

EDIT: I think I really changed my view on God when my Uncle died in 9/11

I highly recommend the book by Terry Practett called "Science of the Disk World III". It has a very good look at evolution, creationism, intelligent design and so forth. It even goes back and looks at te times of what brought forth people like Darwin, subjects like the Blind Watchmaker, how blind was the Watchmaker, etc.

If your serious about wondering if there is a 'God' or a 'Supreme Being' (without the anchovies) then I highly recommend the book.

Btw, if your willing to postulate about your view of god, then be wiling to read up about how a lot of the main stream ideas that are around today came into being.

yeah education is prefered over speculation any day of the week.

i guess if anyone REALLY wants to argue this, they'll have to do better than simply opinion based banter, which is what most of this thread has been.

I hope maybe we'll have a new member who'll be willing to give this another go. It was a really interesting thread.

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Originally posted by MetalSkin@4 Hours Ago
I highly recommend the book by Terry Practett called "Science of the Disk World III".* It has a very good look at evolution, creationism, intelligent design and so forth.* It even goes back and looks at te times of what brought forth people like Darwin, subjects like the Blind Watchmaker, how blind was the Watchmaker, etc.*

If your serious about wondering if there is a 'God' or a 'Supreme Being' (without the anchovies) then I highly recommend the book.

Btw, if your willing to postulate about your view of god, then be wiling to read up about how a lot of the main stream ideas that are around today came into being.

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What kind of bias is this written from? (you can't really discuss religion without some kind of a personal bias)

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Originally posted by XRedBlazeX@Yesterday, 11:17 PM
I remember this thread... sort of... How gullible are these people though? Believing that some fairy tale brewed up by ancient peoples, and eventually changing to fit each progressing culture's beliefs, might actually prove to be true?

Religion has been proved wrong time and time again by science. The Aztecs thought Cortez was a god. Almost the entire world believed that the world was flat, and even when it was proven to be round Christians clung to their false beliefs (much like they do now) and killed anybody who thought otherwise. Countless destruction, or "end of the world" theories with set dates have been passed up with no armageddon, no great plague, no extinction of the human race. Seriously guys, give it a break.

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i agree 100%


no one really belives god really they only want to

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no one really belives god really they only want to

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Yahtzee!

The book is written by Terry and two other notable Scientists in UK (names escape me at this moment). The book is biased towards evolution, as were the previous two books (though their subject matter wasn't the issue of evolution, other science areas).

Even if you beleive in creationism or Intelligent Design, its an interesting read. Mainly because it discusses how a lot of concepts today came into being. The book notes the key authors from 17/18/19 century (and some older) that developed ideas which are used in the creation/evolution/ID debate.

The third book can be seen a tad derogetory at parts, but this is mainly because the third is an extension of ideas and concepts discussed in II and I. I actualy recommend all the books, specialy if your interested in concepts like advanced mathamatics and physics but dont have much more than a secondary school education (I failed eyar 11).

i dont believe anything that is man made .. because as humens our minds r limited .. and we r full of mistakes .. so maybe this book or thoery .. is gonna change in the future .. so its not a source u base ur believe on ... and besides about darwin everybody knows he have a false thoery .. even a 5 years old kid knows that lol

check this site gonna answer lot of ur Quesitons, All Videos u Can see of evidence and science about God existince

scroll Down and u gonna see the videos :`)

Site Here

P.S: i think videos r Always Better Than Reading a Book hehe :`)

as per usual illusionist, you bring meaningful debate and appropriate comments in reference to the comments made previously.

As I have stated above, have a read of the book. Regardless of your view or opinion, the book has some very interesting information that both views will gain value of. I'm not trying to change your views, I'm trying to add knowledge about how the current thoughts on evolution, creation and intelligent design have 'evolved' over the centuries.

Remember your religion and views are not that old when compared to a lot of the other religions. This means there is a history before when your religion started that may be pertinant to this debate (if debate is what you can call it).

Btw, I love your argument about how books are not good because they are written by man. Well your holy book is written by man and you have no proof it wasn't. all you have is your belief that it was 100% correctly recorded revelations from god or gods angel, depending on which verse you use.

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Btw, I love your argument about how books are not good because they are written by man. Well your holy book is written by man and you have no proof it wasn't. all you have is your belief that it was 100% correctly recorded revelations from god or gods angel, depending on which verse you use.

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ok Proove it that its written by man but after u watch the videos from the begging tell the end ... from the link i posted..Because the videos r my evidence... then u can argue with me .. if ur not gonna watch the videos .. then dont argue with me and dont say its written by man .. Peace

P.S: All the Videos R Scientific Proofes .. and u gonna learn alot about our Holy Book when u see the Videos .. it explains alot .... and it explain bout darwin theory as well ...hope u learn something