when i see proff god exists i will belive it
to many CHRISTAIN Freaks tryin to dumb down soicity
religion = main cause of war. and why worship war.?
500th reply btw:)
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when i see proff god exists i will belive it
to many CHRISTAIN Freaks tryin to dumb down soicity
religion = main cause of war. and why worship war.?
500th reply btw:)
LOL - You gota be kidding me rite. This guy is jokin. Your telling me, that what i believe in is wrong! WHY? Because of science. LMAO. Let me tell you what science is, all science is. is a THEORY, thats all, its just one big THEORY. And u got tha balls to tell me that religion has been proved wrong many times. WHERE? You aint got no proof to show me, none of the people have on these forums have ever produced evidence to show why i should believe in something other than MY GOD??? And yes, ive been here for a while, and been in discussion with metalskin, ellusionist and unit#43 and they havent shown me evidence or reason to believe otherwise.Quote:
Religion has been proved wrong time and time again by science. The Aztecs thought Cortez was a god. Almost the entire world believed that the world was flat, and even when it was proven to be round Christians clung to their false beliefs (much like they do now) and killed anybody who thought otherwise. Countless destruction, or "end of the world" theories with set dates have been passed up with no armageddon, no great plague, no extinction of the human race. Seriously guys, give it a break.
So u tell me MaDD? What do u believe in? SCIENCE? Thats an even greater joke, because like i said, its just one big theory which can b proved wrong at any time. And when you bring some info on how religion has been proved wrong, not just by stories from your friends or by your opinion, then i may consider, but until then i shall still believe in the God who has control over everything.
lol i believe in God !Quote:
ive been here for a while, and been in discussion with metalskin, ellusionist and unit#43 and they havent shown me evidence or reason to believe otherwise.
round and round we go...
there are a lot of ignorant people in the world, its true. scared of the truth and what might be after they die. afraid that life might ACTUALLY be meaningless. afraid that when we die there is nothing. nothing is hard to comprehend. like space being infinite, our minds cant get around the idea of complete and overwhelming nothingness. so the ignorant live in fear. thankfully they've found religion. so they suck their thumbs and pray to their gods as they sit and blindly follow the blind into a land of eternal bliss believing that somewhere somehow, santa clause is watching over them.
here have a bible, if it'll help you sleep at night.
there, NOW lets debate lol.
If you lack the emotional security and have to rely on religion to sustain you, then you're weak. The weak will die off and the strong will prevail, it's all natural selection.Quote:
Originally posted by KRAZEE+8 Hours Ago--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(KRAZEE @ 8 Hours Ago)</div>Please prove to me that the Earth isn't a sphere, I'd like to see that.Quote:
LOL - You gota be kidding me rite. This guy is jokin. Your telling me, that what i believe in is wrong! WHY? Because of science. LMAO. Let me tell you what science is, all science is. is a THEORY, thats all, its just one big THEORY. And u got tha balls to tell me that religion has been proved wrong many times. WHERE? You aint got no proof to show me, none of the people have on these forums have ever produced evidence to show why i should believe in something other than MY GOD??? And yes, ive been here for a while, and been in discussion with metalskin, ellusionist and unit#43 and they havent shown me evidence or reason to believe otherwise.
So u tell me MaDD? What do u believe in? SCIENCE? Thats an even greater joke, because like i said, its just one big theory which can b proved wrong at any time. And when you bring some info on how religion has been proved wrong, not just by stories from your friends or by your opinion, then i may consider, but until then i shall still believe in the God who has control over everything.
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All religions have evolved so to speak, from previous religions. The very concept that there might be supernatural powers (in your case, a god) was created by ancient peoples to explain what they could not explain. Today it does the exact same thing, explaining what happens after we die, explaining the creation, explaining the destruction, etc. Science and technology has proved ancient religions wrong and rendered them obsolite, and sooner or later we'll have the technology to prove that there is no afterlife and to say what event actually happened that created the universe and everything. It will be a while, but assuming the human race prevails... we'll figure it out eventually. Untill then, there is no scientific evidence proving religion wrong... there's just no reason to even believe that it exists in the first place :blink:
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round and round we go...
there are a lot of ignorant people in the world, its true. scared of the truth and what might be after they die. afraid that life might ACTUALLY be meaningless. afraid that when we die there is nothing. nothing is hard to comprehend. like space being infinite, our minds cant get around the idea of complete and overwhelming nothingness. so the ignorant live in fear. thankfully they've found religion. so they suck their thumbs and pray to their gods as they sit and blindly follow the blind into a land of eternal bliss believing that somewhere somehow, santa clause is watching over them.
here have a bible, if it'll help you sleep at night.
there, NOW lets debate lol.
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i cant tell if you agree with me or if you think im religious.Quote:
Originally posted by XRedBlazeX@58 Minutes Ago
If you lack the emotional security and have to rely on religion to sustain you, then you're weak. The weak will die off and the strong will prevail, it's all natural selection.
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I'm agreeing with you, I'm just also tossing in the fact that that's a really pathetic reason to believe in a religion.Quote:
Originally posted by tabloid@5 Hours Ago
i cant tell if you agree with me or if you think im religious.
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I posted, and its been about 6 posts since my last one and still you have yet given me anything to believe otherwise. I think the ignorance and ignorant people of this world are people like you who choose to not believe!
You are sayin that religion was created by men? WHO? And how would u kno if u dont believe? LOL - You are saying that religions are false, then prove it! You show me proof and then ill consider, but for now, im gonna stick with tha Bible, oh Thanks Tabloid ;)
Cheers mate, slept real well last nite
And you also will ask for proof on why i believe in the Bible and what it says in there, well its all written in the Bible and once u show me first why u choose to not believe i may open the scriptures and show u why i believe.
This begins the debate -
RELIGION -vs- THE WORLD
well quite a few flaws in here, but i have gone over most of them in previous posts in this thread.
However I will raise one, which is on the subject of science and 'theories'. The word theory is abused and often missunderstood, terms like the theory of evolution is abused without understanding how theories are defined.
We live everyday dependant on 'theories', the theory of pasturisation, the theory of protiens, theory of chemical reactions, theory of amino acids, theory of resistance/voltage/etc.
Defintion of Theory:
A set of statements or principles devised to explain a group of facts or phenomena, especially one that has been repeatedly tested or is widely accepted and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena.
or
A set of theorems that constitute a systematic view of a branch of mathematics.
or
An assumption based on limited information or knowledge; a conjecture
now i know everyone who beleives in a religion will jump on the last definition, without understanding how the word theory is used in science and mathamatics.
The theory of relativity is a widely accepted fact, it has been tested and refined over years and years, and is continualy being tested. that is the nature of a scientific theory. it is never presumed to be cased in concrete that new evidence cannot be held against it to be tested.
This is the oposite of religious beleif, which is determined by beleivers to be the absolute truth and refuse to let anything be held against it in a non biased review of the said beleifs.
So when religious people are willing to look at things from a non biased perspective, to allow thought on ideas that are not 100% the same as theirs, then I know an intelligent conversation will ensue. Unfortunatly what we have here are a lot of people who are just professing their dogma without even considering what the oponents to what their faith espouses state. That isn't due consideration and testing of values held. and with such people, debate is not possible as they are not willing to consider other peoples views, opinions, evidence, etc.
As has often been proven, this thread is a joke as the people who partake are not on a voyage of discovery about what could be true, but are only interested in stating what they beleive is true.
MetalSkin .. plz Explain to me This Theory Mr. Theory science and math ... u never answered me about this thoery and the videos:
"Let us imagine ourselves standing in a laboratory stocked with beakers and test tubes containing all sorts of chemical compounds. Then suppose an earthquake has just occurred upsetting the shelved vessels, sending their contents spilling onto the laboratory floor. It would be a very strange coincidence indeed to find new life forms generating themselves where none had existed before.
You might say, 'Your analogy didn't account for time - these organisms need time to evolve.' We ask, 'How much time should we have allowed? Was there enough time since the beginning of the universe to allow for their self-induced formation?'
Let's hear from Swiss mathematician Charles Eugene Jai. In an experiment aimed at answering this very question, Jai set out to calculate the probability of the random formation of a single protein molecule. Jai 'helped' the situation by assuming the existence of formative elements, and by selecting a protein consisting of only 2,000 atoms (An average protein might consist of 32,000 atoms or more). Jai also assumed that the protein would consist of only 2 unique formative atoms.
He determined the value of probability by considering the size of the material and the time necessary for the random formation to occur. He calculated that the probability of forming even a simplified protein molecule was approximately 1 in 5 x 10 e+320 !
The size of the material necessary to produce that almost zero probability would have been a sphere with a diameter of approximately 6 x 10 e+176 miles - about 10 e+63 times bigger than the imagined size of the universe. Finally, the time necessary for the molecule to form was 10 e+243 billion years. This was far greater than the supposed age of the universe - only about 2 billion years.
He concluded that the universe was neither old enough, nor big enough to allow for the random formation of even a simple protein molecule. It was impossible for the universe to have created itself, and for life to randomly form. We must then consider another course. There is a Creator who created the universe."
