No offense to anyone in particular, but as for "What is there to lose?" well, the life of going to church, praying, all that religious bullshit, is uh, kind of a waste of life.
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No offense to anyone in particular, but as for "What is there to lose?" well, the life of going to church, praying, all that religious bullshit, is uh, kind of a waste of life.
Because you can't Believe something if you don't believe it. Lol. That plan of yours goes against the whole idea of religion. You're not supposed to follow religion because you think there might be a chance that it's right, and you don't want to get screwed in the end. You're supposed to follow it because you believe it.Quote:
Originally posted by KRAZEE@10 Hours Ago
Alright. You keep stating that God doesnt exist and that there is no such thing as a God but if there was no God, why did people start counting years AD(Anno-Domini meaning in the year of our lord) and BC(Before Christ)?
Also, what do u have to lose? What if there is a God?
Take this as an example - Me and Jo (made up person) are living our lives. Ima christian and he is an atheist. We live our lives according to our beliefs and faiths and morals, and we die at the same time and i go to heaven because of my faith but he goes to hell because of his lack of faith. OR! I cease to exist and so does he because there is no God in the first place. I havent lost out and neither has he. But that is just if there is no God but i do believe there is so why not!
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I have alot better morals than alot of christians do. If going to church and praying to an invisible man is what makes the difference between heaven and hell. Well, I'd rather be in hell.
Nothing relating to religion was founded during the time of christ. The bible wasn't written until hundreds of years after his death. Like Shurai said already, AD and BC didn't come about until hundreds of years after too. If anything that juts proves how innacurate christianity really is. You're talking about a religion that was passed around by word of mouth for over 300 years. No forwarding or reply buttons on their emails, no fax machines. Word of mouth, for 6 generations. You can't prove god exists, that's why it's called faith. I, don't have faith in _your_ idea of god. And I don't see why anyone would want to force it on anyone else. If it's not true faith, then it's not real.
umm if im right the old testament was written before jesus, the new testament was wrote after he died. about AD and BC, saying that it proves how innacurate christianity really is is a load of bollocks. that doesnt prove a thing. like you said you cant prove god exists thats why its called faith.
umm if im right the old testament was written before jesus, the new testament was wrote after he died. about AD and BC, saying that it proves how innacurate christianity really is is a load of bollocks. that doesnt prove a thing. like you said you cant prove god exists thats why its called faith.
The Old Testament dealt with history and stories of Moses, Abraham and King Solomon. Although a mention of a messiah is brief, the New Testament deals with the story of Jesus extensively, which was written as said before, hundreds of years after he lived.
Also there is no archaeological proof of any of the stories mentioned in the Old Testament. If these events had actually happened, wouldn't well scribed neighbouring nations know about this? Such as Egypt, they kept extensive written records about the world. But neither any account on the Old Testament and its characters were published in Egypt until a hundred or so years after the first known scripture was written.
Rahting, of course I'm talking about the new testaments. We're talking about jesus an christianity.
Thanks for explaning shurai.
hmmm actualy I will have to correct shuri, there is actual archaeological proof of different places and events in the old testement. The old testement is not only a religious text but a historical text, based on historical events and places. But as in all historical texts with a religious context, often physical events are described in relation to religious goings on, just like Atlantis.
Though you do post an interesting comment, and that is proof of the characters as discussed in the new testement. Personaly I beleive that a lot of the people as described in the new testement actualy were real people. The old testement I suspect is partialy historical and some people would have been real people. And as such, historical non religious records of their existance will be hard to find because back in those days, such records are far and few inbetween.
As for BC and AD well in AD 523, the papal chancellor Bonifatius, asked a monk called Dionysius Exiguus to devise a way to implement the rules from the Nicean council (the 'Alexandrine Rules') for general use. At the time dates were commonaly calculated as the years since the reign of emperor Diocletian, but as a Monk he wanted to honor it around the birth of the Christ. If your realy interested have a gander at:
wikipedia - gregorian calendar
christian calander
various calander systems
From the last link you can see info about a host of calendar systems. From the history of the various calenders, one can presume that religion has always paid a big impact to the development each calender.
But as always I have yet to see any physical evidence for the existance of a god, let alone proof of any religion's view of their version of God. Just like I am yet to see proof of Ghosts/Poltergiest, Mediums, Alien Visitation, Witchcraft, Demons, Angels, ESP, etc. They're all lovely stories that involve the believer to believe without proof or with very flimsy proof, that woudn't stand up to any form of independant testing.
but after all the old testiment was written after all these events and such things could have been brough in to the bible to try and give more solid evidence that such religious events could have happened as we all know word of mouth is thrown out of the window because things can be misconstrued so applying things to places in history which could strengthen the arugement for the dispute which arises about christ and god and such...Quote:
Originally posted by MetalSkin@7 Hours Ago
hmmm actualy I will have to correct shuri, there is actual archaeological proof of different places and events in the old testement.* The old testement is not only a religious text but a historical text, based on historical events and places.* But as in all historical texts with a religious context, often physical events are described in relation to religious goings on, just like Atlantis.
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LOL How is it a waste of time? If i wasnt in church id be at home watching tv or playing PC, now thats a waste of time. And that is also your point of view. If in the end, after you die, you see there is a heaven and hell, you will see that instead of going to church and praying wasnt bullshit and you may indeed wish you went to church or prayed instead of "wasting your time"Quote:
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* No offense to anyone in particular, but as for "What is there to lose?" well, the life of going to church, praying, all that religious bullshit, is uh, kind of a waste of life.
The christian faith doesn't allow people to just attend church and go through the motions as a 'after life insurance'. This is all part of the 'Sheep and the Goats' which describes people for many reasons who try and get into heaven but they're told that Jesus/God doesn't know them.
So the concept of just going because your better off in church doesn't garentee a place in heaven, not via works will one get into the gates of heaven. Well according to the christain faith.
So actualy "attenting church, praying and all that religious bullshit" is a waste of time if you do not 'beleive' in the christian faith.
