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I believe that God does exist, but heaven and hell, now thats a different story. I think that hell is non existent, and if we have sinned, we simply wait in purgatory until our sins hve been absolved, and we have been purified, and then we all go up 2 heaven, as no one deserves to be put in a place as bad as "hell"
i dont think god really exists
Oh boy, I'm glad I found this topic.. seriously. >;D
First of all, God may exist.. but if he/she/it does, he/she/it doesn't control ANYTHING on Earth. Think about it - if all God wanted (like the Bible says) was for man to strive, do you think that he/she/it would allow all the stupidity and moronic things to happen on the planet every, single day? Nah. I think he/she/it would prevent the majority of large things, for instance, prevent George Bush from being born, stop the 9/11 Attack, bend Saddam and/or Hitler over with no lube, etc. Nuff said on that topic.
Now.. Christianity on the other hand.. is a total different story. Christianity is fictional; it is a way of control for the Vatican and the Pope. If the Pope doesn't like it, guess what? It's banned, or deemed "hellish" or whatever you call it. Everything that Christianity says is wrong are man's natural instincts.. lust.. greed.. anger.. sloth.. jealousy.. etc. etc. etc.
The Bible? What is that? Oh, a fictional story written by.. I think.. 33 different authors!!! Nuff said about that, too!
Evolution was a theory, but it HAS been proved true. This is what most people still don't understand... scientists do know how evolution works, how it happened, and when it happened. I'll admit as a society we don't know everything there is to know about it, but we are sure that it did happen. The only thing we don't know for sure is how life came to exist. There is the primordial soup theory, which seems consistant with everything else we know, but we can't prove it true yet.Quote:
Originally posted by KRAZEE@14 Hours Ago
Just a question to metalskin or unit43, How come you think your so right that no God exisis and how come you think that the evolution theory is more correct than the Creation theory?
Also, the evolution theory was made up to explain things that people today still cant explain so isnt science pretty much the same as religion?. Like the fact that science is a bunch of theories, proven, yes, but the Bible has been proven to be historically accurate as well.
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On a side note, the bible has only been proven historically accurate to the point where we can pick out specific people, places, and a few non-mystical events and actually prove that they happened. There are in reality however, no credible accounts of "maricles" or any supernatural presences.
So where then do you obtain your ideals and beliefs from? You've complained earlier about 7/11, Saddam, Hitler, etc. Where are these ideas coming from, if not religion? Let's take a look at society: killing is wrong, alcohol/smoking/drugs are evil, peace and love for all.... this is a Christian-oriented society. Sure you don't believe that the Pope has any sort of divine might, but you're still accepting the cultural norms that Christians have been preaching for centuries.Quote:
Originally posted by Crymsyn+1 Hour Ago--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Crymsyn @ 1 Hour Ago)</div>So you're saying that if a god did exist, it has to be on your side? What if it took Saddam's side, and believes that the USA should be slowly killed off? Also, if you do believe in a god you might want to consider darwism as well, though there's nothing mystical about it. The god you believe in, should it exist, would know that the stupid and the weak will eventually die off, overall strengthening the human race as a whole. How can you say that this is not man striving?Quote:
Oh boy, I'm glad I found this topic.. seriously. >;D
First of all, God may exist.. but if he/she/it does, he/she/it doesn't control ANYTHING on Earth. Think about it - if all God wanted (like the Bible says) was for man to strive, do you think that he/she/it would allow all the stupidity and moronic things to happen on the planet every, single day? Nah. I think he/she/it would prevent the majority of large things, for instance, prevent George Bush from being born, stop the 9/11 Attack, bend Saddam and/or Hitler over with no lube, etc. Nuff said on that topic.[/b]
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Now.. Christianity on the other hand.. is a total different story. Christianity is fictional; it is a way of control for the Vatican and the Pope. If the Pope doesn't like it, guess what? It's banned, or deemed "hellish" or whatever you call it. Everything that Christianity says is wrong are man's natural instincts.. lust.. greed.. anger.. sloth.. jealousy.. etc. etc. etc.
The Bible? What is that? Oh, a fictional story written by.. I think.. 33 different authors!!! Nuff said about that, too!
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There's the problem, Red.. I'm -not- accepting the cultural norms of the so called master religion. I personally think that everything that Christianity speaks is meant to control and contain a population, and in my mind, that makes it wrong. I get my beliefs and ideals from everything that I see every day. If I see it, it must be real and correct (based upon how it meshes with my intelligence: obviously, a magician isn't real).
Do you see God coming down and shaking my hand to prove to me he is real? Has the Pope popped out of a hole somewhere to explain to me that I am a heathen going down the left hand path instead of the right? Nope.
Indulgence over abstinence is the best way to live life in my opinion, because ever since I accepted the practice I've been a carefree person. I just don't understand why 90% of the people in the world worship something that cannot, and does not, exist.
Where are you getting that information? :S Not every religion deals with an omnipotent being.Quote:
Originally posted by Crymsyn@3 Hours Ago
I just don't understand why 90% of the people in the world worship something that cannot, and does not, exist.
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YEs indeed the Bible was written by over 30 different men but did the Bible ever contradict itself once? NO! Therefore you cannot say that over that long a period of time in which it was written and it not contradicting itself once is quite amazing for a FICTIONAL story.
I read fictions every day that do not contradict themselves. Want a few examples?
Eragon
Servant of the Shard
Sea of Swords
The Hobbit
The Lord of the Rings Trilogy
See where I'm going with this?
You cannot compare the Bible to other fictional works. There is entirely too much crap crammed into the Bible.
And another good question - if the Bible had 30 different authors from 30 different time periods, how in the HELL didn't it contridict its self? Seems to me like it would have happened somewhere, which just helps my theory that the Bible was written about the time of the printing press by the Vatican so they could control the world's population.
Have you ever read the Bible? I think not, Why? Because what is written in the Bible never contridicts itself not once! And if it did then i wouldnt be a Christian.
You also say there is too much crap crammed into the Bible? How so?
interesting stuff here
i love reading up on stuff and getting informed
i think that is a huge problem with people. ignorance and hypocrisy.
i am in fact a christian and so far going by faith. i agree with the morals of the bible but do not know everything there is to know about science and religion.
if you are a christian... dont take things too harsh when people are trying to prove you wrong. suck it up and outsmart them, or dont whine about it. it gives christians a bad name if you just blabber stuff without knowing what you're talking about
