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Have you seen these new commercials. It's inferring Windows is a terrible OS, Windows users are stupid, and Macintosh performs better. No, as a matter of fact it's incorrect. Windows is an amazing OS, you just need a firewall before you ever release your computer on to the web, I dont see how you can get a virus on windows... Unless your a complete moron, and that I can agree with.
Good point I hate the way it tries to make us sensible windows users look inferior, Also it seems that most Macintosh platforms have the processing power of a penis.
It's just marketing.
But windows deffinetly isn't a great OS. It's just what you're used to. There's really only a handful of options, it's not like you have much to compare it to. And unless you've run linux, BSD, OS2Warp, and BeOS you're really only comparing between MacOS and Windows. Most of the people that say macOS sucks have only used it a few times, for school or etc. If you've spent any real time on MacOS then you'd learn to appreciate it for what it is. They each have their good and bad points.
MacOS is overall a better OS than Windows, But I'm one of those poeple who wants raw power and performance on their system, therefore Apple= big no.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(SgtSwabs @ Jun 28 2006, 03:51 PM) [snapback]176636[/snapback]</div>They're different systems. you can't compare them like that... as a metaphor ... imagine you have an old camaro putting out 400hp. And race it against a 200hp import. The cars, when raced, are evenly matched. because of weight, transmissions, suspension, effeciency, etc. etc. the same can be said for the PC to Mac debate. The mac numbers look weak compared to a similarly priced PC, but when compared side by side they're pretty evenly matched.Quote:
MacOS is overall a better OS than Windows, But I'm one of those poeple who wants raw power and performance on their system, therefore Apple= big no.
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I've run almost every OS there is, I was merely comparing the two =).
I still would be under Ubuntu if it wasn't for Photoshop.
Ubuntu > OSX > XP
When people put down Windows it pisses me off. I don't favor one more than another b/c im not fucking going to try another. WTF is wrong with Windows? No normal human being needs anything else.
I don't hate windows. I don't hate MAC OS. I'm use to windows, so I'm sticking to it.
I would go linux (i have multiple times sucessfully), but my parents bitch and complain.
So... with that said.
I think theres more options these days with windows machins, then mac machines. There more support, more software, ALOT more gaming, and just overall more 3rd party software and hardware.
Personally, (between windows, and mac) im a windows man.
Although those commercials lie so much. = /
those are kinna funny but untrue
cuz it depend on the user
dum user=bad comp
smart user=good comp
doesn't matter on the OS if u ask me
WTF are you on about Jeebin, If you have money you can afford a good PC, if you have not got much money you can not afford a good PC.
Nothing to do with being smart you dumbwit :lol:
I think your he dumbwit.
He was talking on how, depending on the user, runs well/not well at all. It dosen't matter which OS, or computer you have.
Read the post, and actually think about what he's talkin about.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(bigfatguy6969 @ Jul 2 2006, 11:00 PM) [snapback]177797[/snapback]</div>My eyes bleed everytime I try to read his post.Quote:
I think your he dumbwit.
He was talking on how, depending on the user, runs well/not well at all. It dosen't matter which OS, or computer you have.
Read the post, and actually think about what he's talkin about.
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Anyway, I think I know what he is getting at. However, there are far better free operating systems, then the paid Windows.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Vermilion @ Jun 28 2006, 09:16 PM) [snapback]176732[/snapback]</div>WTF is wrong with windows? man... everything... i can hack a windows computer with my eyes close.Quote:
When people put down Windows it pisses me off. I don't favor one more than another b/c im not fucking going to try another. WTF is wrong with Windows? No normal human being needs anything else.
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and besides it is the wrost OS, it represents Bill Gates...
Go Linux ;)
There are 10000000 differences betwen linux and windows.
windows has 10000000 bugs
and linux gentoo has emerge tool ^_^
I agree.
I like Windows and Linux alot..
Windows, isn't to horrible.
Your more then likely using it right now, so shut your face.
Windows has it's place, linux their's, and apple's theirs.
Why can't people just understand this?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(bigfatguy6969 @ Jul 6 2006, 02:46 PM) [snapback]178735[/snapback]</div>man. how can windows have its place?Quote:
Windows, isn't to horrible.
Your more then likely using it right now, so shut your face.
Windows has it's place, linux their's, and apple's theirs.
Why can't people just understand this?
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windows stands because it is a bad copy of linux. you cant program with windows, you can't open your web browser without getting a virus. it is pretty expensive, bill gates dont care about you!! they care as long as you pay. and not just windows. look around! xbox do the same, mac is the same shit, i have a mac, i use it because my job. if im gonna use photoshop or final cut, i better get a mac. so mac has its place, but windows? if you want to do everything else, go to linux and dont pay a peny, and if you need help go to google anbd type what you need, there are endless forums with help.
i dont understand why you defend winblow$ like that :S
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(FaTTzZO @ Jul 6 2006, 04:24 PM) [snapback]178794[/snapback]</div>I'm sorry, that made me choke. Can you please explain why you can't program in Windows?Quote:
windows stands because it is a bad copy of linux. you cant program with windows
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I can't see how Windows can be a 'bad copy' of Linux since they have a completely different structure of programming.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(FaTTzZO @ Jul 5 2006, 06:42 PM) [snapback]178340[/snapback]</div>Quote:
windows has 10000000 bugs
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No it doesn't and it only gets buggy if you download shiat loads of enraged baboon porn or something.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(FaTTzZO @ Jul 6 2006, 06:24 PM) [snapback]178794[/snapback]</div>No, that's just your fault. Stop bitching about something when you have no idea what you're talking about. You can't program in Windows, huh? Puhleeeze!Quote:
you can't open your web browser without getting a virus.
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Man it's marketing, it's just the way to bring the product to stupid people. We (the users of winOS) know what's good, and what's bad, and how the things are in computer world... We don't have to see an ad to realize something about us... ;)
BFG, so your saying someone with a £100 budget can get a better PC than someone with a £1000 budget just because they are smart?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(sublime @ Jul 7 2006, 03:26 AM) [snapback]178894[/snapback]</div>Quote:
No, that's just your fault. Stop bitching about something when you have no idea what you're talking about. You can't program in Windows, huh? Puhleeeze!
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i didnt mean that literal, everyone knows you can make a program on windows, is dumb to take that literal. what i mean is, that if you are making a real good program, and you just have been working for 10 hours in a row, and then w00t... blue screen of death, you lost some of your work... great deal with windows!!
Security?
Incredibly, MS has failed to include a virus scanner in spite of its recent public humiliations by means of Code Red and Sircam and its sudden interest in security. Outlook is still one of the finest worm and virus propagation mechanisms known to man, though the IE6 package now includes a version of Outlook Express which no longer launches executables. But you still can't force OE or Outlook to display HTML message bodies as plain text, to avoid malicious links, AxtiveX controls, JavaScript and 'Web bugs'. No, the advertising lobby wouldn't like that. The spam industry would object. 'Functionality' (bloody illiterate word) has got to take precedence over common sense.
Viruses, worms and Trojans make their way onto your machine because of Outlook's default insecurity, or because you are an idiot and you'll download anything off the Web that sounds interesting and launch it, or because your teenage kids take what they think are porn and music files from their 'friends' in IRC and ICQ without question. The solution is a virus scanner and a more secure Outlook -- and we'd have both if MS was actually serious about security, which it obviously isn't.
There's a firewall in XP, which is installed by default whenever you make a new Internet or networking connection. It's also turned full-on by default. This covers the clueless newbies who'll be making their first forays onto the Net from XP.
But if, by some miracle, your device drivers are all up to XP's demanding standards and you successfully carry over an existing connection from a previous version of Windows, the firewall has to be enabled manually. Not the best situation, but clearly better than nothing.
and besides that you have an electronic babysitter
However, if you're a basic PC user thinking about buying XP, don't. It's basically malware. It harangues you with nagging, fake-friendly reminders to obtain a Passport and submit to product activation, and treats you like a child when you try to do anything heretical, like install a device driver of which it disapproves.
You get your first hint of its 'you're an idiot; let Daddy help' posture during the install, where the progress summary informs you that Windows is "analyzing your computer". Yeah, right. Analyze this....
Got a suspicious piece of hardware on that box of yours? You might be out of luck if XP doesn't like the drivers it needs to function. MS has a new scheme of 'preferring' signed drivers which it will distribute, automatically, no less, via its support Web site.
That wouldn't be quite so bad if the digital hand of Daddy wasn't programmed deep within XP to keep us all from harm. In the old days, when you went to install a driver manually, you could search through a list of those you'd installed previously and stuff around until you got one going to your satisfaction. No more.
If you've already installed one that XP 'likes' but then attempt to choose one it 'dislikes', you won't be given the chance to defy the Wisdom of Redmond. You'll get a little message telling you that 'Windows has determined that the driver already loaded better suits your hardware.' And that's it. Gone is the little query allowing you to 'install your choice anyway.' Let Daddy help.
you want me to keep writing?
I dont have the time to read that whole post because I am doing some Physics coursework but Im just going to say; You downloaded a shiat load of angry emu porn did'nt you? :P
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(FaTTzZO @ Jul 7 2006, 06:24 AM) [snapback]178794[/snapback]</div>:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:Quote:
windows stands because it is a bad copy of linux. you cant program with windows, you can't open your web browser without getting a virus.
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Windows was developed in 1989 and linux was in 1991.
so how can windows be a copy of linux?
If I were allowed to flame him like in RPG Codex, I would.
bah :P
im just gonna say this..
..|.. :P
j/k
its all up to you all
i dont care if you use windows, or mac, or linux, i was just posting my point of view about windows!
as you can see, i dont like it at all :D
however, i respect Bill Gates, but i dont follow him. he is a pretty smart guy, not because he developed windows, but because he is still selling it :P he is the richest man on the world, and i admire that
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(BlackOut @ Jul 7 2006, 09:32 AM) [snapback]178923[/snapback]</div>What?!Quote:
BFG, so your saying someone with a £100 budget can get a better PC than someone with a £1000 budget just because they are smart?
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I said nothing of the sorts. But yes, that can be true. If you make your own PC, its a million times cheaper then buying one.
I was talking how a smarter person with computers is less likely to get a virus or trojan. Thats all I said. =P
And dude, just give it up. Windows is the most used OS for a reason. I love linux, and would be glad to use it. I'm unable to do that, unfortanely.
So, in conclusion: Windows isn't the greatest OS... but it surely is most compatible these days =P
The software world has become a mess of tiny monopolies. Basically, whichever company gets there first wins. Adobe created PDF, so what does everyone use...Adobe's pdf reader. Microsoft invented MS word file types, powerpoints, excel sheets. all of which can only be editted (reliably editted) by microsoft products. it's not about who's done it the best, it's about who got there first.
...like Apple and the iPod.
And yes, I agree that IE and Outlook Express are shitty programs, but there are alternatives. Don't bring down the whole OS just because of a few programs that are installed on it. Get rid of them and find something else.
And as far as Windows "babysitting" you, I think I would rather be babysat if I were a complete computer newbie than have to stare at this:
http://salvare.sourceforge.net/screenshots/boot.png
ummm That's the startup screen. and Most distros have an option where you can get rid of it and stare at a logo instead, just like booting windows.
I would quite happily stare at the penguin for hours on end. :)
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(unit_number_43 @ Jul 7 2006, 11:44 PM) [snapback]179233[/snapback]</div>True, but it makes my argument better this way.Quote:
ummm That's the startup screen. and Most distros have an option where you can get rid of it and stare at a logo instead, just like booting windows.
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I understand how windows can be a pain, especially WinXP. It was called "Let Daddy take care of it" but from MS it's know as user friendly.
The whole XP OS is made user friendly, it was suppose to get more people that have never used windows before to desire it more. With just a click of a button they could setup entire networks without any coding with more security than ever before. Easy to create your own business and enjoy entertainment.( Of course this takes away from it being so easy to modify but also makes it so outside users, "hackers" can't take advantage of it as easy. True if anyone has the knowledge the can get around anything but this is just a step for MS to easily stop them for if it does a system check it can see if all files are exactly the same as when installed. If you mod it, it will say there's an error in some sitiuations for you can go so far in changing it that windows doesn't recognize it and sees it as an opening for a hacker. So if you do that you have to change the windows registery system to allow it to default recognise your setup. So hopefully they make Vista OS a bit differently for more Advanced Users.
The whole thing for people who want to modify it and don't know everything about the OS say they have problems instaling new drives and such or unistalling all the windows basic programs like media player.
MS has intergrated this vary throughly for a reson, though I do understand why people do complain for I've needed to unistall programs such as these that have no uninstallation file or can't be found in other places easily. This is another defense that MS has made to help new user from being open virus that could simply knock out any of the basic programs that for new users are everything they do. So I bet MS was hoping that WinXP would be great for people who have never used a computer before or Windows and for programs to learn how to get around it.
I do understand the problems with Windows, I use Windows Media Center and that's because I'm still a newb. This OS has so many problems with other devices it's ridiculous. But it is great for someone who bought it just for spacifically what it was made to do but even at that other windows can do what this can and more.
Linux is great OS, so is a Mac. As BFG said it depends on the user. If you know a lot about your OS you can for one make it do anything you wish, even if it means change the whole OS or creating a program yourself to convert all files from another like Mac to Windows. Knowledge is power :P.
agrre with that.
but windows is also slooooow... because you cant compile your programs, i got an AMD Dual Core (fisical) 4 core (logical) 64 bits. and obviously im runing linux on it, but a frind of mine told me, hey have you tried windows vista? i was like, man... i dont use windows at all :P but he convice me to install it.
windows vista minimum requirements are like HUUUGE. it ran ok, but not as fast as on linux, how come?
well windows its a preinstall OS. as you say, for ppl who is starting on computing (wich its ok) but its only ok, when you learn and then move on. but windows dont let you learn, thats why you keep buying windows.
and i dont like windows because its a bad OS, i mean, if they are bad making and OS its ok. but they make windows bad, so you keep buying the new releases.
they got virus because they SALE antivirus.
its like they own your ass. they make a virus called I LOVE U, and then they say.. hey people, dont be afraid, we found the cure!!!!... wich is 100 bucks.. o_O
and besides all that windows has TRUSTED COMPUTING!!! :S
thats my point of view, and im not criticizing any of you guys who like windows, because besides your computer likes i like you :P haha :P
and YEAH my english is not good :P
