Okay so after those 2 requests I figured I'd do a few more for myself. Try some tuts etc etc. I did a few the other day and one before I started this six hour plus project. (I have no idea why it took THAT long but I guess I was slacking 40% of the time xD) The fact remains though, that I really like my outcome. This is (in my opinion) by FAR my best sig.
I actually started off with Ractchet's rikku sig tutorial but I kinda spent so much time at the lighting that I forgot I still had to go further with the tut. So in the end I finished it without having one more look at the tut xD
I hope you guys like it too (at least better than the previous 2 xD)
And I hope I got some 'depth' in it. So far I've seen several definitions of depth but I guess it was mostly the difference is sharpness and lighting.
Last time editing (sharpened, smoothed out the blur on the right and changed the text color - still not very happy about the text, though it's better now imo)
Also I didn't look into what Miril posted yet so that'll have to wait til tomorrow evening. http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w...rutohinata.gif
^ Damn, I accidentaly took out the layer that covered the lighting on the right hand side of hinata's hair.
So if you look at it think of that to be the same as in V1 and V2
Time to hit the sack xD
01-04-2009, 05:02 PM
Fork
Not liking the text, and it could use more depth and better blending the effects are bad, although they could have been executed better. and the sig in general could be a bit bigger height wise.
01-05-2009, 12:15 AM
Ptka
Shorten the length, and make it taller.
Don't use such a bit and eye-catching text.
Blend it a bit more.
Use some more effects in the background. :D
Nice try, read some tuts, you'll get there!
01-05-2009, 08:59 AM
Kirixa
Edited (I feel more relaxed now xD)
@Fork
1. I hate high sigs. That's just a matter of taste. The size for my sigs is approx. 400x100 and it will stay that way :D
2. You're not clear at all. What isthe definition of depth according to you?
3. I suppose you meant to say "The effects aren't bad, though they could be executed better." since otherwise it would make no sense at all :P
@ptka
1. Same as I said to fork: I'm not adjusting the size.
2. Last time I did sigs I got the comment that my text was dull and shit so I was like, okay okay I'll make it more out there. Still not to everyone's liking apparently =/
3. Afaik blending is throwing some brushes in your sig which also cover the background so it gives a more feeling that the entire image is 'one', correct me if I'm wrong though.
4. More effects? I might say ditch the bubble c4d and add something else there but other than that I wouldn't add ever more effects. Or should I? oO
Please do remember constructive critisism actually helps the maker of the art. It doesn't just say This is wrong, thats wrong, that doesnt look good blabla, try saying 'I don't think thats all that great, I may have ...' or 'maybe you can try ... instead of ...'
iunno just a few suggestions (:
01-05-2009, 09:02 AM
KidBuu
if u r so straight abt it i will say the below line:
"THE SIG ISNT LOOKING GOOD"
btw i too will like to know what depth means.
01-05-2009, 09:08 AM
Kirixa
Thanks kidbuu, at least someone says what they think.
[strike]Also I might've gotten a little carried away when I posted that,
that doesn't mean I didn't mean what I said though.
It just came out a little too pissed I guess.[/strike]
fixed
01-05-2009, 09:13 AM
KidBuu
i can critiseze more if u want to hear. :D
yup i know it pisses anyone off when u see designers getting good sigs while you dont.
When i first started using photoshop i was so pissed, i was like WTF how do they do this type of things lol
01-05-2009, 09:24 AM
Kirixa
Well to be honest, I don't feel like my work is a lot under that of most here.
Sure there are some who use awesome effects, nice text effects, creative use of vectors and what not and sure there are some who have some seckzy lighting going on. But other than that I seriously hardly see much difference.
I guess I either don't have an eye for this or my taste is just one of a kind, who cares. To me it's just a hobby, not a profession >.>
01-05-2009, 02:21 PM
Studhorse
Yea, I'd say your post was a little over the top.
Dropping "F" bombs will get you nowhere in life very quickly.
Now, I'm at work and due to firewall restrictions, i can't actually see you sig image, but from what I've read you seem to be having difficulty understanding "depth".
2 simple ways to add some depth to your sig is to:
a. when you have you final layer, create a new 1, then go to image>apply image. Add a blur filter Blur>Blur, then erase over the focal and maybe some of the area around it on a lesser opacity.
b. simply adding a black/white gradient map set on either soft light (for light contrast) or multiply for alot of contrast and then play with the opacity level. Also the violet/orange gradient can provide some nice contrast.
01-05-2009, 04:32 PM
Kirixa
Lol I seriously did both of that ^
But thanks anyways, also I showed it to some other people and a few actually said
"Wow nice depth dude!"
And I was like "me confused x.x"
Also I would like to say that I hate cursing and being pissed in posts but after asking other people it kinda ticked me off nobody took the effort to briefly explain the meaning of all this signature jargon to which I'm still not quite accustomed.
I'll try blurring it some more and maybe try to add more warmth to my render since it looks kinda cold after that cooling filter I used =/
01-05-2009, 04:51 PM
Studhorse
ok, being able to see it now that I'm home, I have to say that I like it.
It's not cluttered, it's pretty smooth.
Effects are nice and I think the render is blended in enough.
Text could use work though, not sure if that blue color is working.
it's a little long, which creates alot of space on the left hand side there, you maybe you could crop that some.
Maybe sharpening the focal some would help too.
not bad though.
01-05-2009, 04:56 PM
Kirixa
Wow thanks for the comment, I can actually do something with this! :)
I wasn't all that sure about the blue text either but since people told me my texts dont stand out enough I thought 'the Hell, let's just give it a try.
Hmm the way you put I can see where you're going with that 'too much size' thingy.
I might just cut off a few pixels (was thinking of sixty-ish)
That'll probably ruin the vocal point's positioning though.
Oh well I'll see.
Hang on while I give it a go (:
01-05-2009, 05:30 PM
Miril
OK... straightforward. well, I like the sig overall. It doesn't seem short to me, though that's a preference. I like the effects on the left side, though the right side seems a bit odd as the only primary effect there is that circle which is a bit grainy tbh and seems as if you just slapped that there. As for depth, it has good depth, though only on the left side imo. The right side is screwed up because the character next to naruto (im forgetting her name) is supposed to be in the forground, or so it seems imo, it seems weird that you would have an effect there that is blurred enough to seem like its WAAAY in the bg. THAT IS JUST MY OPINION. Effects on a forground character in a multiple character sig should go in the forground, imo, whereas effects on a background character should go in the bg.
The lighting is nice, and I definitly like the cropped v2 more. Imo the entire sig is nice, just a little awkward on the right side and grainy/lq all around.
01-05-2009, 05:30 PM
Miril
rawr.
**CRAP that was supposed to be in an edit of my last post.. soz for double post**
01-05-2009, 08:21 PM
Fork
My bad, I will remember not to C&C your work anymore, Someone that refuses change isn't worth the time to explain to. And yea I did mean "Aren't"
01-05-2009, 08:30 PM
Firescorpio
although i do agree with what everything or mostly what all the people said, i can see severall issues with your sig.
starting off is the text color and form as stated before doesn't math the theme and color scheme. it feels completely out of place and errant into position to the signature, as said before your text takes away from the focal point, as for doing nice looking text the whole point of the signature is the work done over the render not the text itself learning what color, form and type of text comes naturally when u get more basics down, for position size font type color etc, papa's text tutorial could help you in that area, as for some advices from me it all depends on the feeling and theme of the sig without a clear theme and flow going on the sig its pretty hard to deviate from a point in common, remember text can kill or make a sig , so in that area you failed to do and deliver.
as for the whole effects that is a matter of taste depening on the type of sig is oke to use more or less but everything with subtlety and not overshaping the forms, i like the erosion effect you have going on with your left side, as for depth and as mentioned before its a feeling of place foregroudn background, having a sig be composed as to feel like its a natural enviorment in which the focal is.. this meaning in a sense real, which enhances the feeling and power of a sig, little dpeth makes it easy to spot mistakes and effects used seperatedly and breaks the illusion for which effects are used for.
you started off ok and deviated too soemthing idk well how to describe, probably coming from the lightning effects. What do i mean with these your attempt at lightning is ok on the left side and on the right side its a mess i know what you tried to do but adding the text over it breaks the effect and seems liek just a spotlight which doesnt feel lik it could be giving out the lightning of her hair.
as for blending it needs a bit more i can see the borders from the render an in one sitnace below the girls hair it seems a bit choppy soy try working on blendin in your sigs more
as for the attitude and all that was said i guess it might get you angry and all the CnC are not covered in coat and candy and some of the members might not be as nice as others,
as i do agree people need to do better CnC's as to which areas to improve its their opinion as you said and they are entitled to it, but snapping back as you did well didnt show much more cortesy from yourself, and wether you agree or not.
and as you referred to others work and you not being under the norm well of course skill wise you are not under the level of allot of people here, but skill wise and i mean this as in program knowledge basics, it can only take you so far, you have to take into account composition, color, complementary shapes themes everything that sometimes as dull as it seems as hobby like as it seems there are rules and maybe knowing them couldnt hurt you all that bad.
as for it not beign a profession no of course sig making is not a profession and you cannot make a living out of it but i do take offense, when people liek you disregard it so easily (specially me im a student of grapic design) its not just sig making i do sig for hobby but graphics is a whole world and yes it is a profession and yes i make a living out of it. Why do i make a point out of it when i normally wouldn't, is just the lack of respect and attitude you showed when replying to other members, whatever they are telling you work on wether they tell how you do it or not are clearly issues you would liek to adress and work on, if simple you do not want to hear any of these type of criticism make a note on yor post and you will get what you want.
so in generall and closing up i think the sig is ok its solid skill wise but needs allot of work and tweaking up to be good, use ratchet's dameons or papa's tutorials to learn a trick or two and you'll get there in some time.
01-05-2009, 08:31 PM
Miril
Holy god, firescorpio you beat me. GRRR. MUST WRITE MOAR>!!
The man above speaks the truths by the way, learnz Kirixa, learnz moar.
01-05-2009, 09:54 PM
KidBuu
WTF is that scorpio? some kind of literature on how to make a good sig :D
or a whole tut :D
anyways i cant read all of it but whatever i read is true :p