You all have pretty good skills with gfx design. With that said, please epxlain to me why when we have someone who posts something new in the sig showcase the thread gets 30 or more views with no comments even after 24 hours of the thread being posted.
Then when someone in a "click" or team posts after a thread has been up they get about 5 to 10 comments right away, why? When someone posts a bump or a why no comment in their thread they seem to get punished by a bunch of assholeish comments with no real pointers or advice on what or how to fix the issue in their tags.
Also when someone posts in the rate my signature thread, most of everyone gives really bad ratings, unless..., you in a team or in a "click" If you rate someone in that thread arent you suppose to give reason why you gave that rating, and not be an asshole about it by just giving a really low rating and give no reasons AT ALL! This site is a good site, minus the usual pricks that troll the threads.
Please someone fill me in... why the bias attitudes?
Can someone plz explain.
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12-11-2010, 07:48 PMSuFi B A M F513Can someone plz explain.
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12-11-2010, 07:51 PMBogui
im an asshole for not giving any reasons?
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12-11-2010, 07:53 PMSuFi B A M F513
i put a lot of time into trying to learn to better my skills i would like some feedback about why you gave me such a bad rating. And its not just me that i see this happening to also. I look around everywhere in this site and i see some good work done and those people dont get the credit they deserve.
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12-11-2010, 07:57 PMSuFi B A M F513
MrK is another one, that guy gave me a 4 and a 2 just in spite. This site has been pissing me off when it comes to an artitist and their stupid egos, you dont want to help gfx noobs get better just say so, im ok with that, at least that is feedback i can deal with
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12-11-2010, 08:06 PMoNo
Lol, i was just rating, I never once thought about an actual critique. I'm sorry if I made you mad.
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12-11-2010, 08:10 PMDark Method
I sent you a PM about this. Let's not argue too much please and thankyou.
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12-11-2010, 08:12 PMBoguii did the sameQuote:
Originally Posted by MrK
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12-11-2010, 08:15 PMPet
The reason is, people are more likely to both view and comment on something made by a person they know. When someone new to the site posts, they are unknown, so people are unfamiliar with them, as well as no history of works to see their progression. I just deal with vectors, so even though I try to view most, if not all of the large art work, I only really post on the ones that I can give good critique. As some people have seen, when it is about a vector, I can write a paragraph without meaning too, but that is because it is what I know. Sorry I can't help for you in this situation, but maybe PM a few people of works you like on here, and ask them to give you some critique, then I am sure more people will follow.
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12-11-2010, 08:20 PMMonroe
I think you're reading waaay too much into it SuFi. There really are no popular cool artists on here, besides me of course, that get any special attention. Why do the new artists get less comments than the better ones? Well that's actually quite simple, but not biased. The reason is, when you open a thread and it's a shit signature that you don't like, you don't want to spend ten minutes stating every thing that is wrong with it and come across as an asshole in the end for pointing out how garbage it is. But if you open a thread and it's a great sig that you like then of course it's natural to leave a couple comments of why you like it and maybe mention a thing or two that might be changed.
As far as whatever rating you got, I didn't see it, but if you're wanting an honest rating of your work then you're not cranking out anything over a 3. Not because you're a shit designer, just because you're new and still learning. It is what it is. But like MrK said, it's rate the signature above you, not write an essay on it. If you look through the thread, everyone else is getting nothing more than X/10 just like you, so what makes you any different?
As far as people getting low ratings unless they're in a team, well.. all of the newer and more amateur designers aren't in a team, but they still deserve their low ratings regardless of if there were on a team or not because they're amateur. The more experienced designers are in teams and get better ratings because they make better sigs, regardless if they're on a team or not. This isn't high school, there's no cool kids and outcasts demographic. You're new at designing, you got a low rating on an amateur sig, no need to start a thread about it bro. -
12-11-2010, 08:31 PMSuFi B A M F513
Thanks monroe, Pet, and Dark.
You three are my heros right now, you have really cleared it up for me. The thing for me is that a rate is a judgement and imo there should be a reason stated as to why the designer got that rating, tbh, i think my designing skills have improved since i have been a member here and i still feel like some new guy that has no idea about what he is doing like i was at first. IDK I guess, i get frustrated because i really want to see that i have gotten better from an outside pov. And it is frustrating to know i have 3 new sigs up and only one has gotten a cnc which is why i went and posted it in the rate your sig thread, I hate that thread btw, but i wanted some feedback and didnt get it. I dont like bumping my threads because then i get some feed back like... your c4d isnt good and your text needs to be removed... thats all. End of my Rant guys, i meant no offense to anyone here. -
12-11-2010, 09:29 PMFork
To be honest I only critque peoples works that I know will take it into account and apply the knowledge I try to give them, most people just get upset when you say something wrong and they end up raging about it. Or just refuse the fact that their piece of work is imperfect.
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12-11-2010, 09:36 PMDerosion
Also, the forum has guests too. Guests are able to view topics and obviously they can't reply, so it doesn't always have to be members that are viewing it.
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12-11-2010, 10:19 PM(-)Ion
from a design standpoint, if you're looking for really solid critique on design elements, then frankly you probably aren't going to find them here. the reason for that being that 95% of the designers here are really new designers and couldn't tell you specific design related issues if they wanted to; they just don't know them yet.
of the people who have been around long enough haven't progressed at all because the void, ironically, seems to be full of designers either unable or unwilling to try to make any progress and actually learn good design. they all make the same types of stuff, and the it's a circular cycle of copying eachother's work. this is why almost everyone's tags here are nearly the same exact style (some sort of smudge or c4d spam or fractal spam, all of which rely entirely on the quality of resources used instead of using good design elements to create a piece themselves). the only comments you are going to get usually is how to turn whatever you make into one of those styles, because that's what they know, and that's what they think is good.
there are some people here with some skill, don't get me wrong, but those people probably don't post often because of being discouraged by their posts being disregarded by new designers that hear "omg that's awesome" from a few of thier friends who are also really new and don't know better, and when they hear the "actually it's really not good, here's why..." from someone who knows better they prefer the positive crit and keep making things in order to get those remarks again. hence no progress.
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12-11-2010, 10:22 PMBenni Black
all i can say is at the end of the day a rating or a critique is an opinion of another person no matter how you put it. we all want our works accepted some way but everyone doesnt feel the same. so take it as it is breath deep, keep working on you. also if you feel like your not getting any feedback dont be afraid to pm people and say hey could you let me know what you think of my work with a link. i get numerous pms like that. just an idea.
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12-11-2010, 11:39 PMHoshiko^^^Quote:
Originally Posted by Benni Black
I'm pretty new here, but surprisingly even I've gotten PM's like that. A lot of the time I just click the new posts button and reply to as many things as I can. I don't reply to everyone's threads, there's a lot of posts here in a day most times. And I'm also going to go with what Monroe said, I don't want to come off as a bitch who hates someone's work by pointing out a dozen and a half things I don't like about it.
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12-11-2010, 11:44 PMBogui
[Quit Spamming - Nutter]
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12-12-2010, 03:16 AMNutterI'm gonna explain this in detail so bare with me...Quote:
Originally Posted by SuFi B A M F513
People post on what interest them... you can't help that. I tend to post more on Anime stuff or technical things, however if I see a rapper, I'll ignore it, even if it's amazing mostly because I don't like rap. That is just common interest which is determined by the individual.
Another things about comments is that they work on a respect basis. If you comment others and give them good feedback, and I mean more then, "Great lighting mate", they will take notice and remember your comment. If you keep giving positive and detailed feedback they may be inclined to comment about your art piece. For me a great example would be a good friend of mine who's on deviantART. Both her and I continually give each other feedback and if she needs any help she knows that I'll provide some ideas, and vice-versa. This is only because we continually offered each other help.
Respect works both ways.
The Rate my sig thread will always be bias towards people. I got a 4 or something for my AirGear sig because the person below me thought it was boring. What they didn't know was that I coloured and redrew half the image with my tablet. The reason why it has the simple look is because I wanted to look simple and plain. It would be like me telling Pet to add textures and light effects to his Vectors. Some things are not meant to go together and art is viewed both personally and expressively.
As well as this, you are always gonna get the usual arsehole that will spam crap. I'm sorry we can't control that as much as possible, we can't be everywhere at once but it's also up to you members to "Report" crappy posts by clicking this image at the top right of the post: http://images.gfxvoid.com/images/ski...ons/report.gif
I can tell you straight away that we don't receive many report notifications. We do receive the occasional one, but if it's as bad as what you are suggesting, then we can't tell if it's happening if no one tells us.
If you have any problems you can always PM me. I get E-mail notifications on my phone 24/7 so if I hear something, I can address it as soon as I get a chance. The other thing is if you want a comment on an art piece or sig, PM me. I like to comment on people's works, but I tend to do more if I'm asked to view a certain piece.
