Okay, I don't mind a good ole' debate, but i'm not going to tolerate the personal insults. There's no need to call other members douchebags or fucking dumbasses.

You two guys came in here looking to stir things up and that's what you got. Now just because you were shown to be hypocrites, that doesn't mean you start insulting other members.

Also if I came across a graphics forum and I felt that every member there was a ripper, I personally would not stay at that forum.

Everyone is welcome at CX and we won't stop you from saying what you feel, but the insults stop here.