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    then by your definition there is no free society on the face of the earth. what we have is majority rules to live by for all in a society while giving as much freedom as the majority will suport.

    but that is totaly off topic.

    I reckon that due to the aging and overweight population, that man bras will become popular with males, if not just for back support.

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    My father would love this topic. He's always talking about how society has changed for a Paternal society to Maternal.

    Just look at the job market. The glass ceiling is steadily breaking down. I think it was a pretty natuaral change. Take a look at different countries. In the countries where violence governers men are still controlling everything. But as technology and information replace physicality as a way of life, men no longer hold an advantage. Wether you want to admit it or not, men are built for physical work and fighting. We are natauraly stronger and more rugged than women. But women are just as intelligent as men, and they are even more apt at multi-tasking. Making women, at the very least, equal to men.

    The only advantage men have anymore is in upper management. Men, for the most part, can work without emotion. Women, again for the most part, rely on emotions instead of blocking them. Which makes a man a more stable ball breaker than a women. A man is more likely to be able to make a decision that could ruin someones life without even thinking about it.

    Of course those are generalities and not true in 100% of situations or for 100% of men/women. But we are talking about men and women in general.

    So as the job market changes, so do societies influences and role models. Not to mention the surge of popularity the gay community is getting. No longer do young people see strong men running the world, they see strong women and gay's running the show as well.

    Where does it go next? Who knows. Probably a resurgence of the sexual ambiguity that was so popular in the 80's. After all, 80's styles are coming back. Expect a backlash though. I'm willing to bet 10 years from now you're going to see a huge move towards traditional male styles, flannel shirts and loose blue jeans. It's an inevitibility with the predictability of fasion. All you have to do is look back at the styles of 20-25 years ago.
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    Madd is right .. think back to say 1.5 million years ago, the world was free and anyone could do what they want, and then for some reason some twats took over and ended up controlling our lives, things got lost, many natural behavoural attributes were lost due to what a few people thought. People began to make a standard of what boundaries should be erect for men, women, children, adults, business class, upper class and lower class. It's like me going back to 1913 and saying women are cheap labour, nothing more .. bearers of babies and if you were upper class then the only thing they could be was trophy wives ... watch the mona lisa smile .. oh wait no that's a chick flick and i can't watch it because i'm male. Lot's of boundaries have been broken and you wouldn't say a woman couldn't work? it's so primitive to divulge in self awareness about how we're meant to be because some people don't think it normal. Also read some of J.B Priestlys' novels especially "An inspector calls" it shows equality, boundaries and such which, some we can still see today.
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    I tottally agree with you.
    In my opinion if you want to do it do it and no one should make a fuss. People deserve the right to be individual if they want to be feminine let them be! Just like if women want to be masculaine.

    just incase you didn't know food...ear piercings aren't 'feminine'...guys had ear piercings before women...ancient egyptians to be exact.

    Besides i paint my nails black, have 00 gauge earrings, and occasionally wear hot pink eye shadow (not very often). does this make me feminine? No. next time i'd say get your shit straight before you make a post like this.
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    i'd say moisturizers as well will become mainstream for some guys...
    Wooo!! you sound like a goth.... or emo or greeb...
    I'm very goth. Very sweet my friend.

    Anyway, some of my friends in fact find more feminine guys attractive.

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    Probably some fashion might be wearing tight clothing..hehe ^^;

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    Originally posted by HellBorn Angel@2 Hours Ago
    Anyway, some of my friends in fact find more feminine guys attractive.
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    That is so damn true. The feminime guys are the good ones. If you guys were girls, would you really like to have one of those gym-muscle-buildup thingies that tries to be as manly as possible as your boyfriend? ;P

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    Originally posted by unit_number_43@Yesterday, 9:54 AM
    My father would love this topic. He's always talking about how society has changed for a Paternal society to Maternal.

    Just look at the job market. The glass ceiling is steadily breaking down. I think it was a pretty natuaral change. Take a look at different countries. In the countries where violence governers men are still controlling everything. But as technology and information replace physicality as a way of life, men no longer hold an advantage. Wether you want to admit it or not, men are built for physical work and fighting. We are natauraly stronger and more rugged than women. But women are just as intelligent as men, and they are even more apt at multi-tasking. Making women, at the very least, equal to men.

    The only advantage men have anymore is in upper management. Men, for the most part, can work without emotion. Women, again for the most part, rely on emotions instead of blocking them. Which makes a man a more stable ball breaker than a women. A man is more likely to be able to make a decision that could ruin someones life without even thinking about it.

    Of course those are generalities and not true in 100% of situations or for 100% of men/women. But we are talking about men and women in general.

    So as the job market changes, so do societies influences and role models. Not to mention the surge of popularity the gay community is getting. No longer do young people see strong men running the world, they see strong women and gay's running the show as well.

    Where does it go next? Who knows. Probably a resurgence of the sexual ambiguity that was so popular in the 80's. After all, 80's styles are coming back. Expect a backlash though. I'm willing to bet 10 years from now you're going to see a huge move towards traditional male styles, flannel shirts and loose blue jeans. It's an inevitibility with the predictability of fasion. All you have to do is look back at the styles of 20-25 years ago.
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    This is totally from grade 11 Psychcology class. Haha. Seriously, we studied those exact facts.


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    randy your a little too late, some guys that i've seen at concerts wear some tight chick pants.



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    Originally posted by ilovecoheed@4 Days Ago
    randy your a little too late, some guys that i've seen at concerts wear some tight chick pants.
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    I do have many views that are somewhat abstract, but I am very traditional when it comes to this type of male/female interaction. I will NEVER get piercings, I will NEVER wear makeup, and I will NEVER act feminine. I can't see at all why our society is turning towards this whole "emo" stereotype, it's ridiculous. If you dress like a girl, look like a girl, and cry like a girl, then you're NOT a man. I feel the same way about people who are submissive and skinny/weak/feable as well, but that's a completely different topic.

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    Thats fair enough I can't really see why emos are so senstive but saying that if they've still got all the equipment there still guys.
    Not all girls cry, I'm more masculine than anything else. I'm not an emo but some emo hair is pretty cool and I know some emos and there not all complete sissies.
    But saying that there were feminine men ourside emo population, I mean some camp men act really feminine.

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