hmm... i don't officially know the pentool either... just i know how to do it... to be honest it's not hard just everything seems to fit when i do it (and i don't click around the shape i'm trying to vector to make an outline like most people do) i could make a video tut on the pen tool if you like... i have camtasia and shit.. just if i can be bothered later whence i'm finished gaming i'll give it a try ... just don't expect any leet skills ok... and no laughing at my voice :lol: :lol: haha