i'm making one too rob i wish to send it to you, not much on comparing mine to yours as mine is kind of rubbish but i'm guessing we have around the same amount of layers and time into our own... but as i did say yeah, but since you left msn i thought you could maybe lower the flow and increase the opacity and that should make your brush whatever it is you're using more bolder ... if that's not what you knew already but just any little helps eh? ... good work on a scale for a first try and a WIP i say you have definately got near to the top in my books :P