I really hate all the anti-ipod sentiment. There's always people more than happy to bash something just because it's popular.

First off, The Creative Zen Sleek is cheaper than the iPod photo (the SECOND most recent model). But only cheaper by about $20. So either you got suckered or you didn't even check.

Second, The iPod photo's color screen is fantastic. It allows for full color games, and album art for your mp3's. The ipod can also be plugged into your TV where you can present a slideshow of images easily and quickly from a machine that easily slips into your breast pocket. Great for any business person that needs to make presentations.

Third, the iPod has a much easier to use navigation and on-the-fly playlist creation than it's Creative counterparts.

The bottom line is that Creative does not make a better 20gb+ hard drive mp3 player than apple. And still, this isn't the point of this topic. Bashing every post about an ipod is destructive and stupid. If you don't own one, then what are you basing your opinion on?

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I'd love to try running linux on my ipod, however the photo's support is not as stable as I would like it to be. I'm not willing to risk damaging my ipod in exchange for video support. If anyone does get it running on a 30gb ipod photo, let me know.