if everybody means me, jerner, and rabie . and jerner the first one is not plain, that was my bad, when i looked back at it i realized my mistake. the first one is good, but i thought that you needed to cut around the render a little better, you can see some of the previous pallete behind him, or maybe just an outer glow? idk i dont really like it tho i like sig, i ment i dont like hte effect on the render. very nice dude. must've gotten my things mixed up sorry about that