Originally posted by Nike@Mar 14 2006, 04:04 AM
First off, I like how you actually.. backed up your statements but several mistakes.
So your suggesting that I should just add to the poison?
Alright that is complete bullshit. Please show me the source that you got that from. But let me pretend that I'm wrong. Why would we want to even give ourselves higher risks of getting this awful disease?

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Top 15 Male Life Expectancies

 *LE (years) Smokers prevalence (%) 
1. Iceland 76.6 (1994) 31.0 (1994) 
2. Japan 76.5 (1994) 59.0 (1994) 
3. Costa Rica *75.9 (1994) *35.0 (1988) 
4. Israel 75.9 (1994) 45.0 (1990) 
5. Sweden 75.5 (1994) 22.0 (1994) 
6. Greece 75.2 (1994) 46.0 (1994) 
7. Switzerland *74.8 (1994) 36.0 (1992) 
8. Netherlands 74.7 (1994) 36.0 (1994) 
9. Canada *74.7 (1994) 31.0 (1991) 
10. Cuba 74.7 (1994) 49.3 (1990) 
11. Australia *74.5 (1994) *29.0 (1993) 
12. Spain 74.5 (1994) *48.0 (1993) 
13. Malta 74.5 (1994) 40.0 (1992) 
14. Italy *74.4 (1994) 38.0 (1994) 
15. France 74.3 (1994) 40.0 (1993) 
USA *72.6 (1994) 28.1 (1991) 

If, as the anti smokers postulate, smoking is a deadly "addiction", trimming years off the life of the smoker, how do they explain such examples as Japan, Israel, Greece, Cuba, Spain, Italy and France? How can it be that people in these countries smoke far more than people in the United States, yet manage to live substantially longer?
Where did you get this from? This is total bull too. But again I'll pretend. Those countries also eat very well. Maybe they eat better giving them advantages? There's hundreds of things that can happen. But doubt it happened.

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First off, that was not meant as a back-up for my argument, it was simply a point of interest I thought I might share with those reading this topic, the source was found as on a Wikipedia further reading link found under the search topic of "smoking".
On reading it again, I notice there are several data errors such as using different years used in comparing the life expectancy with the percentage of the population smoking.



but you do realize, that in any metropolitan area - you're probably inhaling far more dangerous substances than tar, and they'll be building up.
So your suggesting that I should just add to the poison?
No i'm not suggesting that, I'm just saying that even if smoking was totally banned, the amount of traffic/industrial pollution in the air would be just as detrimental to ones health.

Okay let me start off by saying this. What a load of crap. Jack did no judge you in anyway. He just pointed out how sad it was your a junky and your not able to drive yet.
I did not say he's judging me, the statement was not directional, mearly a point that my non-smoking/toking friends do not judge me on the fact that I chose to smoke/toke - perhaps I could have made that clearer in my post.

Hm.. I'm taking into account that your "Personal troubles and social situations" are getting caught doing drugs, or some other immature actions that got your license revoked. Thus leading us with less pitty for you.
No, actually, "Personal Troubles" was reffering to some rather harsh family troubles I have suffered in the last year, toking helped illeviate the downer that put me on - I'm rather glad I chose that as apposed to alcohol, as the year could have ended up much much worse.
And social situations as referring to the fact that in the last year there, me and my friends have been to parties pretty much every week, where many have all sorts of drugs, and so dope has become much more easily accessed.
I have not been "caught doing drugs", my mum allows me to do so aslong as its outside the house - which I believe is a smarter move than being ignorant and then in an emergancy not know what could be in my system - she knows I wouldnt touch anything else.
"Or some other immature actions that got your license revoked"
What license? I'm 16, I cannot drive anyway, and as for "Immature Actions" .. ehh naw, I'm into having a good time I don't have time for shit like that anymore, left stuff like fighting, vandalism etc behind when I was 14 after an incident which if you wish to hear, id be happy to share, although I shalln't post it just now as it is irrelevant to the topic.

You take pride in that your not that much of a junky yet. That's nothing to be proud of my friend.
Around here, a junky is known as someone who is addicted to hard drugs (heroin, crack, coke) and the image brought to mind is of someone who steals to feed their habit - I dont know if that is the same opinion as shared by you/people in your area.
I have the self control not to try such hard drugs - ive tried coke but I thought it was shit and a waste of money, and so shallnt try that again, the other two carry such a stigma with them that i would never allow myself to touch either.

We never told you that you where told to? It is not a great social drug. When I did it all I did was stare at a firepit the entire night and I probably lost a few lines of my sight
Well, everyone has a different high I guess, and what do you mean firepit?

There is tons more funny things you could be doing. Like drinking, going ot the movies, play on the computer. Look at that! Three things I'd rather do than smoke. I've done my most creative things not being stoned. Yay for me!
LOHL. Funneh.
"like drinking" - nah, I dont like being out of control - its fair enough at parties or at the pub/club - a place with lots of people and a good atmosphere - I wouldn't drink just to chill - thats a bad trap to get into, as alcohol is arguably far worse than cannabis in both its long and short term effects, for example - who do you know who, whilst on cannabis alone, has beaten their wife, kid, or started a fight, assaulted someone randomly/for no reason. Liver cancer seems to be a far worse disease than lung cancer (from the images of George Best on his deathbed, aswell as family members, thats enough to put me off drinking very regularly).
I go to the movies regularly its fun, but even more so when stoned .

I don't believe he ever posted, "WTFMANOMG." ever..
Nor do I - one thing we agree on - "WTFMANOMG" was a generalization of his attitude not a literal quote of what he has posted.

I thought we established that he doesn't smoke. So he can't rumble that into his joint (He doesn't own one.) and smoke it (He doesn't smoke.). Oh and he is no hoho.
Funny one..
It was a play on the words "Put that in your pipe and smoke it"
Wtf is a hoho?
I meant hoho as in a deep-voiced santa-style laugh :P


Never heard of Gauntlet 2, any good?
Out of interest - where do you live (i mean roughly so dont be like "uhoh weird glaswegian junky wants to know where I live ")

Cheers,
Seki