oooo bad joy from a replied post, i thought my image and text blending were alright i was going to do a tutorial on it but not sure :mellow: i have a few techniques? anyone interested just say also the render of the guy with swords is that of the "prince of persia" from here http://www.jxp.ca/media/fondsdecran/89/pop2_1280.jpg i mainly use game renders and thank you for the replies this is a very active forum