Originally posted by 1337elite@6 Hours Ago
The reason i use neither of those is because they are spanking ugly.
I mean a scroll bar in the middle of a page?
And a Frame that's just there and doesn't move.

I use templates.
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You can disable scrollbars on frames.

To me, frames are an easy way of achieving things without knowing PHP. If I knew PHP, and could have the code re-write the menus and all the information for me, then I wouldn't need frames. Since I don't know any PHP, I usually create a frame or iframe in the middle and use a standard custom-made template for all the pages to be loaded within the frame.

Another thing, use tables for everything!